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1. I am not surprised that this post has received comments that ignore the exegesis and Biblical principles in it while stating that I am proud, carnal, that COVID is a conspiratorial farce, etc. But these comments are not going to be published, sorry.

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2. Brother Ross,

   I read your linked articles, and then I read this one.

   I find your appeal to not breaking the 9th commandment the most compelling argument. I don’t want to knowingly tell lies.

   As far as “examining both sides” of an argument, I am conflicted. I recognize the value of examining both sides, and often look at both. My understanding is in debate competitions it is standard practice to learn “both” sides of an issue. On the other hand, I’m not convinced that one must examine an issue from both sides. God commands us to beware of being contaminated by worldly philosophy. With some issues, I only study the Bible’s point of view; I completely ignore any other.

   In “exercising great care” I think it is matter of using judgment when one has examined sufficient evidence. I have read several articles on the previously mentioned issues, listened to quite a few podcasts, and even a couple of scientific papers. And yes, some from both sides. However, I don’t think it wise to suspend judgment on an issue simply because I haven’t pored over dozens of scientific articles.

   There are other considerations. What are the ramifications in being wrong, and how quickly must one make a judgment? I realize you might not publish this – that is fine. When it comes to the Covid vaccine, I am utterly confident based on my own research, that there are effective treatments apart from the shot. There are formal studies that establish this. There is strong anecdotal evidence. When I apply the Word of God to this situation, I am convinced that I am under obligation to speak out to folks. I am to love my neighbor. It would be sin to not speak out. (James 4:17)

   What concerns me most of all is the truth. I think this is what you are seeking as well. I want to know the truth, and the Truth. For matters of doctrine it is simple – just look to God’s infallible Scripture. For those things that are not spoken of directly from the Scriptures it is harder. I simply study out things the best I can, prayerfully consider the evidence, and if the evidence seems compelling, I make a judgment.

   I have been wrong many times before. I am certain I will be wrong again. Except about the preceding statement. If I am proven wrong on something, I pray that the Lord will enable me to humble myself and admit it.

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3. Hi there, Chris.

   I agree with you that when God reveals something in His Word, we can simply take what He says as truth and not listen to opposition to what He says.

   But with a conspiracy theory, it is not a matter of whether or not what God’s Word says is true. Scripture does not affirm or deny that Dr. Fauci deliberately released COVID into the world, or that 9-11 was really a US government plot, etc. For something like this, if we are going to take the conspiracy seriously, we need to carefully examine both sides of the issue, and before sharing something like that with others and telling them that it is the truth we need to be able to refute the arguments that the conspiracy did not happen, so we don’t lie to others.

   Perhaps before we even take the time to look into it we should also have some reasonable presumption that the conspiracy is even plausible and studying it is not a waste of time.

   Thanks again.

   Thanks for writing.

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4. The Bible speaks of conspiracies, & not as theories. We are Christians, not psych-sorcerers or propagandists, & the term ‘conspiracy theorist’ itself is a manipulative & crafted term of men to stop investigative questioning & proving. This world is very evil and evil communications truly does corrupt good manners: even when done very artfully & gradually over time so that we don’t notice. The Lord is removing blinders & false assurances from Laodicea, soon to be spewed. I am saddened that you took the experimental mRNA therapy for I know health professionals who both treated covid patients & took the vaccine in good faith who now suffer serious blood pressure, heart & reproductive issues. I also know of some who claim to have suffered some soreness & to be fine, but only time will tell.
   Something is off with our incredibly increased vaccine schedule, the increasing autism rate & rate of chronic disease & general lack of good health: and when something is not done in the light, or open to investigation or suit for damages, but protected ….biblical sense is to question & remember what the scripture says in these matters about the things of darkness, & the way of light & Christian liberty. The corruptibility of men of high & low degree both.
   I respectfully disagree with Brother Cloud’s dependence upon the opinion of Paul Offit who holds patents & cannot be said to be free of conflicts of interest, and have communicated my concerns. And it should be said that Paul Offit was honest to warn that any & all coronavirus vaccine work since the ’70’s has been catastrophic, showing an antibody response, but killing every single vaccinated test animal with an overreactive immune response when challenged. This mRNA therapy involves genetic manipulation, as well as culture grown in aborted fetal tissue, and with regard to aborted fetal tissue, so did earlier vaccines which is why the work was done in Germany & Europe, & not disclosed to Americans until abortion was magically found to be a ‘right’ & a significant amount of biblical illiteracy & demoralization had occurred. That’s not slander or hearsay, but documented fact.
   I know clinically diagnosed covid patients who avoided the system in which God’s way & Gospel are not welcome to say the least, considering Psalm 1 & 1 Timothy 6:10, using other proven & easily accessible antiviral & oxygenating treatments with a very good outcome. We did not have a clinical diagnosis & chose to so treat & avoid the system here…with good results. The disease is not pleasant & the crisis in which one’s God-given & -designed immune response becomes life threatening is fearful indeed. Due to our experience, & seeing the shocking mishandling of in-house patients, whole floors out-of-use while many were left to fend for themselves at home until the crisis hit….despite growing diagnostic evidence that early treatment ameliated such crisis, ventilations done for the artificial pricing manipulations & guarantees, patients alienated & dying alone separated from loved ones & with the usual nurse’s advocation for the patient ignored or overridden, ridiculous staffing changes & fear-mongering….we had health professionals who were clinically diagnosed opt for in-home & out-of-system care & supplementation who were amazed at the effectiveness, and indignant that their patients whose suffering they had witnessed were not given such knowledge & option.
   In the case of ventilation, we knew of a woman who suffered several heart attacks due to putting off routine care due to fear. She coded twice on the way to the hospital & her two nurse daughters were kept in the waiting room, not permitted to enter as that woman was ventilated. Her death certificate bore the new designation for a covid death which is a new & unheard of thing as far as physician coding & designation goes, testified to & easy to verify. Her daughters protested to no avail, they were not permitted a funeral or normal grieving process, & to add insult to injury, when her insurance proved to be superior & to pay more than the covid guarantee, even the triple benefit that ventilation guaranteed….the coding was changed to a heart related death, & that pay-out was received by the public hospital treating.
   As for fear-mongering, I have been biopsy diagnosed with breast cancer for a little under ten years now. When I prayed about the issue & consulted the word of God, reviewed what I’d witnessed of the treatment of numerous cancer patients, researched & made a short list of several direct questions to my oncologist, which he had the grace to answer honestly & with no little discomfort & visible embarrassment….it was my choice, with my husband’s blessing after witnessing that incredible interview, not to proceed with the very dishonest, selectively disclosing & incredibly price-inflated treatment options with no statistical improvement in outcome or length of life.
   True, I was facing hundreds to thousands of dollars in better nutrition & health promoting lifestyle changes…nothing mystical or affecting mindsoul, altered reality or such; but nothing like the hundreds of thousands & mind-destroying drugging of standard care necessary to carrying a Babylonian overhead of cronies, corruption & foundation ‘charities’ that hate Christ, his word, the Gospel and his people. Very Catholic….even what claims to be ‘agnostic’ or atheist, dogmatic, closed & even ritualistic, the system & institutions of medicine & healthcare have become in this nation & world. And may I add, demoralizing, conscience-searing, & highly pornified & impure? Even with regard to children? Not only glorying in mocking & despising what is good, pure, true, modest, humble etc but purposefully targeting it for defiling, & ‘special attention’ seductions & manipulations, entrapments.
   After a couple decades of salvation & navigating ‘transforming’ churches & clever techniques, shocking cunning & deceit of craft masquerading as Christian, or so-called Christian Right….stealthy sideways purpose driven attacks…..sell-outs & spiritual prostitution ….and spiritual pimps! …..well, conspiracy theory & worrying about the opinion of the world with its ever-changing standards, & being judged by every man of those ever-changing standards really loses its power next to the changeless scriptures & the promises of the Faithful & True most despise, robbing their own selves. The deceiving & being deceived, the blind leading the blind. Becoming like the world to win the world never does anyone any good at all: is that not the very definition of salt losing its savor?
   Anyways, I will eschew that type of mindless capitulation to, or worship of, human authority wherever & whenever I am left with the option, & am grateful to God for it. I’m not willing to bow & worship the idol, or to jump into the furnace willingly as a human sacrifice full of superstitious blind fear…..but am resolved that if forced in against my will, that it is better to die & be with Christ than to play ‘what if’ with the Devil instilling doubt & pushing me to blindly trust men. Is that not where the antichrist spirit & man of sin comes in?
   As tyranny closes in, & even those with the word of God are not vigilant to warn against potential abuses in an increasingly antichrist world & system, and churches are yoked to the state & entangled in the world system, philosophy & traditions, and science falsely so-called, as well as legitimate, observable & repeatable, freely chosen or rejected so that the outcomes can actually be compared…..what kind of salt & light is that?
   Truth & scripture are our guides. I choose nothing because it comes from ‘right’ or ‘left’ ideologically & politically, philosophically….but due to where it stands with regard to truth & scripture, and none of us is incorruptible or infallible.
   May God bless & protect you despite our different conclusions based on truth & scripture, tolerance prevailing within those bounds. I praise God for your public service to him in many ways, some of which have been great blessings to me & encouragements in the faith & word. I hold no personal animosity towards you or those finding your arguments persuasive, but simply disagree & do not find the arguments to be sound. Easier for getting along in the world temporarily maybe, but unwise & a misapplied argument for right authority…..and it must be said that such non-resistance & capitulation to, compromise with, unrighteous authority, has brought this nation to where it currently stands: due to trusting in men & politics & their ‘science’ unproven by scripture & without true mercy & tolerance which does not deny or hide differences or distinctions. Enough said. The rest will get sorted out at the throne & we’re all likely to be surprised at some of what will go up in smoke.

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5. Hi Denise,

   That is a very long comment. I won’t be able to say a lot about of it, sorry,

   Thanks for the “May God bless you and protect you …”

   Maybe you could, in light of the content of the post, explain the strongest arguments you have read against the view that changing one’s diet can cure breast cancer, and why you believe these arguments are invalid, and how eating healthfully specifically kills cancer cells equally as effectively as surgery to get rid of the cancer.

   Also, perhaps you can explain what the strongest arguments you have read in favor of the superiority of placebo controlled trials and their superiority to unverified testimonials, and why you believe (if you believe this) that the unverified testimonials are just as good or better than medical trials.

   If you have read anything about the post hoc ergo propter hoc logical fallacy, if you think post hoc ergo propter hoc is not a fallacy, perhaps you could also explain what you have read on both sides of this as well and you refutation for the strongest arguments on the other side.

   Thanks.

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6. Medical trials are funded & promoted according to the same standards as evolution & creation, and what is now obvious to all with eyes to see & ears to hear as what is permitted & not in our schools & media….whether it is demonstrably false or true, or a matter that should allow differing free choices according to extenuating circumstance. 1 Timothy 6:10 reigns…but it ends in 1 Thessalonians 4&5; Revelation 18&19.

   I might add biblical translation & ‘scholarship’ which strayed first, as always….& not without purpose driven help, or agendas of powerful enclaves of men working in the dark. Thinking 1 Peter 4. There are real punishments meted out by ‘the system’, Romish Babylon, that 4th or 5th kingdom depending upon which dream you interpret, for getting out of line, of out of one’s place in the layered pyramid, though they are often stealthy & indirect in their administration of the punishments through their various organs & embedded ‘brethren’ or activists of the craft: & there have been for some time, & even from the beginning.

   Most suffered & accommodated them, conformed to them, even as they have grown in the darkness & in cunning due to either a total lack of challenge or resistance from God’s people from the whole counsel of God, or due to the impotence of a little fears or resisted, highly mocked & sneered at ‘controlled opposition’ which ‘challenges’ and ‘resists’ with the ‘hear no evil, say no evil, speak no evil of the sacred cows’ approach (else we’ll lose our leeks & garlic, or they will take our nation & position from us)….so that they fight from the same compromised ground of unresisted & embraced lust, fear & dependence upon men & their philosophies, traditions & idolatries as the world; with God & his word ‘harmonized’ and trimmed to fit. They break the power & offense of the cross, and ‘draw a circle’ to take it all in with no distinction of good & evil. Sound familiar?

   Lust of the eyes & flesh, & the fear of death confounding the liberty & truth of John 8 with that false of 2 Peter 2&3; 1 Corinthians 1-4 also coming to bear…Galatians, Colossians and so much more. Taken captive. The Bible speaks of being washed by the word, the living water…..brain washing is a bit different & wisdom that is from above is first of all pure.

   There was that layered Babylonian corporatism that came up through Rome & infected local churches then uniting to become unions & then hardened into denominations, systems, ‘ministries’ ordered by the Babylonian order …..that has also tended to squash & hinder Christian boldness, & with it Christian liberty. The old Harlot has two arms & legs: both of them ‘corporatist’, socialist, Babylonian & with their nicolaitan, priestly class of craft: neither fascism nor communism are anything but tyranny & persecution for a born again Bible-believing Christian as they are both elitist, conformist, demanding compromise, & having no room for pesky ‘divisssive’ truth or tolerance, & as the beastly idol grows: having no long-suffering patience or mercy, or sense of their own sin & limitations.

   All of these things are connected. CFR Rick Warren & Peter Drucker & such have promoted the ‘solution’ of a compromise bringing those things together in one body which they called ‘communitarianism’. Their philosophical maneuverings & apologies leading them back to Romish Babylonianism, to my mind following the Jesuit ‘solution’, another symptom of the same cause. The Bible calls it MYSTERY, Babylon the Great, the mother of harlots and abominations of the earth riding the beast & deriving her power from him. Not as a faithful bride or wife, but as a consort & whore….as is fitting for the unfaithful and the untrue antichrist spirit & father of lies, & his coming abomination & counterfeit, the man of sin, with his corporate ‘body’ and ‘union’.

   Does not Revelation 13 flesh out with all the talk of connectivity and transhumanism? as well as global corporatism & their social credit system? China wasn’t the only place with a form of that Three Self Patriotic Movement deception & transformative weaning from truth into error. They are never content just with men’s money& with what is Caesar’s.
   They’re moving on & demanding men’s souls. Google surveillance in China now even includes ‘smile’ facial recognition to ensure the worker bees & walking corpses in compliance & blind obedience to the Pope/Premier & magisterium don’t bring any of the ‘bad vibes’ and ‘negativity’ of the wrong ‘divisive’ truth & spirit with them. No smile that satisfies the AI algorithm: no entry. No entry, no job, no dwelling, no food, nor position: not even personhood or a right to survive.

   The demand for the absolute capitulation to ‘the system’, & the ‘voluntary’ surrendering of free will choice, the willing ’emptying’ and ‘opening’ of the whole being in blind subservience now includes not only taxation & serfdom….but the surrender & conforming of one’s emotions & personhood, and even the genetic book of life heritage within their very blood & cells. Should that not be disturbing to any Christian with even a cursory understanding of the word of God, & types and shadows?

   I love true science which always points a soul back to the scriptures & the Creator, but these new scientists & interpreters use that rod as the Egyptian sorcerers & priests Jannes and Jambres typifying Lucifer-Satan & antichrist, not as Moses & Aaron typifying Christ. They are even further fulfilling 1 Timothy 4, the forbidding of the eating of meat and marriage, beyond the old Romish Babylon….to discussions of how meat consumption harms the earth& beasts, & there are ways to genetically alter men to be sickened by meat, so that they will comply with the current ‘crisis’ & need; while men genetically altered by say, just 15 cm of stature, wouldn’t put nearly the carbon burden upon the system they currently do.

   And that discussion was amongst the mixed multitude ‘conservatives’ and ‘evangelicals’ with Glen Beck which are now embraced by many calling themselves ‘Christian’ and creationists, patriots …..NOT the ‘secular humanists’ alone. Kent Hovind had & has his doctrinal issues, but was he as far afield as Glen Beck? And why was he taken in a dragnet intended to take money laundering drug runners (black ops run by ‘Christians’ like Oliver North.. and traffickers of guns & men, women & children created in God’s image by men identifying both as ‘right’ and ‘left’), & kept isolated from his family who rarely knew where he was, while apostate cultists & female groupies/sparrows had no trouble being in communication with him; and while the mixed multitude & compromised, any version ‘creationists’ in league with Rome & the likes of Glen Beck, the godman, transhumanist, ‘scientific’ and ‘patriotic’ icon were wooing his son away from the King James Bible & the faith once delivered the saints & into union with mixed multitude Babylon the Great, wing right?

   They didn’t get there by adhering to & proving all things by the word of God, or rightly dividing, praying & studying to shew themselves approved….but by circuitous routes of pragmatism, philosophy & tradition supposedly ‘harmonized’ with the scriptures, and they truly show no more signs of having entered in through the only Door, the strait & narrow way, than those of the so-called ‘left’ or the ‘secular’, and have their own proud militant stoick brand of mysticism to the leftist loosey-goosey epicurean version…..proud Knights of Malta and so forth, Psi Beta Kappa and whatever….and showing every sign of being amongst the crowd on the broad way leading to destruction.

   With social justice religion, liberation theology & all such things left and right, & God forbid ‘united’: repentance must not be required or even permitted, for its evident outcomes & distinctions break up the harmony & the common ground of the Babylonian order & way, the illusion, the lies & unity in that corruption & limited sight….rather than full sight & the truth. For that, Truth cannot be fixed & absolute, but must be malleable, & the boundaries moveable. So, to the idolator priesthood of sorcerers & all those following, the deceiving and being deceived: repentance is ‘hate’, and humility is pride…..even as whoredoms are ‘love’ and war is peace; and all those who go out of the camp to Christ according to the scriptures, who go out of her lest they share in her plagues, are heretics not to be suffered.

   As Bill Nye said to Ken Ham with neer a confrontational word or drawing of the Sword of the Spirit in truth ….such are ‘dangerous’. Why do YOU think Ham did not ask him ‘dangerous to what, Bill?’ or quote the scriptures? Whose rules & laws were he carefully staying within, & why? And once off the Rock, you’re on the sand with the builders who’ve rejected the chief cornerstone. The word of God & commission of Christ does not tell us to make disciples, but to go and to teach every word of God & commandment of Christ. John 1, Colossians 1 and Hebrews 1 tell us where that begins. The word & Holy Spirit of God quickens & works & sorts to make disciples of Christ; and a disciple will be like his master. If that’s a corruptible man, or men’s systems….there’s a problem. We’re not called to draw followers to ourselves & to men, but to Christ as our head & our Lord. Augustinian doctrine & replacement theology are snares & roads back to Romish Babylon.

   Can you see the connection?

   I didn’t say that I had ‘cured’ cancer, a corruption of cell metabolism & genetic instruction; loosely a type of right food for the sheep, ground to receive it and the scriptures, the book of life. Right & strange fire to the burning altar, and every type & analogy breaks down at some point, given, but we still have Romans 1. We also still live in corruption & in bodies of flesh, seeing as through a glass darkly. We have the earnest & not yet the whole consummated inheritance. The physiology & function of living flesh corelates in amazing ways to the physical form & function of the Tabernacle & Temple systems….but we lose such amazing testimonies when we follow the world’s interpretations & Rome’s corruptions solely & blindly because they alone are ‘certified’ as ‘scientific’, or ‘traditional’: certified by whom and by what? and to what end? Whose tradition? Psalm 1 and 19 etc.

   Neither has the system cured cancer. Ask them. They can cause it, but they have not cured it. What they have done is to make it lucrative to ‘manage’ through State certified & protected-from-whole-truth-and-light means, & even have a fake church State-approved and protected charitable foundation arm to their system.

   They called me offering their ‘help’ the day after my diagnosis. But I knew of a fellow living under a bridge after losing his home due to his wife’s costly cancer treatment, and to whom lost people were being more of a blessing seeing to it he had food, than those Christians obediently in compliance with the godless system that caused it! And who couldn’t help him due to staying within the boundaries of that system! I told them I didn’t need their help since I was not going to be going that route so costly in more ways than one. I was also considering my lost days & the ‘charity’ that wanted to give me junk food & welfare money just so long as I didn’t produce my own food, choose something better, or use that money toward becoming responsible & independent, able to support myself & my family. It took awhile to connect the dots on the ‘free’ healthcare & well checkups to my regret & shame, & loss of my children’s health to ramping up allergies & chronic illness. Whether intentional as some undoubtedly was, or unintentional consequences to well-intended ‘helps’……the light that could have righted those things was carefully shunted away to be shone on more politically correct things than aiming for whole truth & living by every word & doctrine, & not just a select & ever dwindling LCD few.

   Sure it’s ‘long’ and detailed when addressed. The devil is in the details. It wasn’t the fact Korah and his pals, or Nadab & Abihu all joined in common ground with Moses & approached the ark of the testimony with censers that got them killed, or even the strange fire: but what was in their proud hearts & denied without repentance & full acknowledgement & belief as they approached.

   From the counseling confessional to the scholastic ordering of the schools to the transfer of wealth & attack on the family & God’s order: all of these things are papist & of men playing gods. They have used the system to blind & defile souls, to decide who lives & who dies, and to transfer the wealth & power into fewer and fewer hands of the ‘brotherhood’…..and it’s the wrong one.

   Have you not noticed how the ‘service surveys’ and the privacy laws all served to shield & serve evil & tyranny far more than the reasons for which they were purportedly put into place?

   You see, curing cancer & such related chronic illness related to lifestyles & choices would kill, or at least hinder & limit, the system, & studying out causation points to all the contributing sources & factors …and people have vested interests in some of those things. Pinpointing source convicts & incriminates, or at the least exposes choice & responsibility…..so it is avoided at any cost. The idols & strongholds must be protected, & so new Babel is built.

   Men say, well, the curse of Babel was reversed by God at Pentecost. Well, that is true: and Jesus said that offenses would come, but woe to him by whom they come. We are to take up our crosses & to occupy until he comes. That doesn’t mean we run to the crosses the world & its spirit would hang us on, provide the nails, pay for the manpower, and crawl up there & lie down passively unless I’m missing something. Or hand off the weak, the poor & infirm, & the pure to their tender lying, defiling & murderous care in our place & without resistance via averting the eyes to the fact that it’s happening, or active participation in it.

   I live with breast cancer, & seek to address it at the level of causation, & selectively: not by carpet bombing with a ton of ‘collateral damage’ killing cells indiscriminately, & ultimately the patient. If I eat or do certain things, the cancer is more debilitating, robbing strength…& may even bleed, while ceasing say, eating highly processed foods with much gmo & addictive non-nutrients, altered/corrupted proteins & sugars (which feed cancer, as it is known that cancer cell metabolism turns from a clean mitochondrial burn to a sort of fermentation), and now glyphosate contamination complicating the issue……….or increasing oxygen to the cells through movement/working with one’s hands & balanced nutrition (as it is known that cancer cells are anaerobic & flourish in a circumstance of low oxygen)….then I see principles of truth at work & give the God & Holy Spirit of Truth the glory. Think of the type of sin, and the fruit of godly & godless lifestyle. Truth & common sense, actually the light of Christ that lighteth every man that cometh into the world, conscientious choice tending toward edification & life, or to destruction & death.

   Likewise, the laws of cleanliness and dealing with sin also teach me that the types of those things in the body & aiding, rather than hindering, detoxification pathways removing the ash & the corruption are beneficial. Fighting corruption & disease leaves debris, as surely as burning all those carbon based sacrifices of once living things having a genetic book of life in their cells on the altar left ash & offal to be dealt with. Through the body and out at the draught Jesus said, right? So, what I eat either aids or hinders that, and movement as well, considering the building or wasting of muscle, & the flow of lymph…..as well as what I meditate upon & allow to dwell in my mindsoul & heart. I can’t help what passes by or in at times, but I don’t have to allow it to take up residence, or remain under its influence willingly ….and I don’t have to become a one-eyed positivity mystic to acknowledge that, or a one-eyed legalist either, but can keep both eyes open with balanced perception as the Lord grants & designed, typifying higher & holier things.

   Anyways, the Lord is good, his word is true on every level & in everything that it touches, inexhaustible, & working within his created order, availing oneself of his provision, brings blessing.

   Of a truth, it is a minefield seeking truth in this world with its cunning all or nothing dialectic games in which both ‘sides’ avoid whole truth for the sake of their chosen system of idolatry, & where hypocritical selective censorship purposely hinders those seeking whole truth. The Lord saved me out of that, why would I go back?

   For a time I chose to drive a truck seeking a more honest means of support, & pursued truth on my own rather than compromising to an ‘education’ in a system that censored truth selectively & carefully channeled every endeavor & effort away from truth, let alone the God & word of truth. The ‘successful’ group I was in due to literacy & educational performance & works thought I was crazy & cut me off due to my lack of worldly credential & ‘cool’….but I had a peace with God & relationship they either did not, or which was dulled, corrupted & compromised. …….And there is a pride & a hardness amongst such ‘successful’ and ‘excellent’ now, a sort of ‘buddhist/hindu Christianity’ with those who pursued the ring & jumped through the hoops of elitism with Christian labels even, that did not use to be so prevalent in America where for a time there was a break with European Romish Babylonianism, nicolaitanism & shamanism/guru kow-towing, in its order & its tolerance of the word & the remnant due to scriptural literacy & voluntary doctrinal faithfulness.

   Where is that difference or distinction now? ….And this is not a boast, for I have been deceived & I have stumbled many times along the way….with my own regrets, & pile of dross that will be reduced to ash & smoke at the throne of Christ. If cancer doesn’t kill me, something else will….but I will not voluntarily serve the cause or merchandising of death, or tyranny. 1 John contains far more than proofs of the Godhead, and man is body, soul & spirit created in the image of God, and our transformation & inheritance is not yet complete or accomplished. 1 Corinthians 15..Ephesians etc.

   How I love old Patrick Henry more as I’ve learned more about just what comprised that ‘rat’ he smelled in Philadelphia, & how God used that man’s faithfulness to shame professing Christians persecuting the faithful brethren, to hinder their Romish European Babylonian ambitions, & to the bringing of America further out from that old Whore’s influence & elitism than any nation to date! But Satan as a roaring lion walketh about seeking whom he may devour, and men are not yet sinlessly perfected & remain corruptible & with the need for constant vigilance, diligence & resistance to sin and the world….and men forget. Do we not?

   So, still groaning. 2 Corinthians 5, 2 Peter 1. But that does not mean I should give myself over without limitation or qualification to the sorcerers of this world & their crafts, and particularly where they totally & absolutely part with both evident truth in its wholeness and the scriptures, giving no glory to God, having no fear of God, and openly censoring & despising him, his way and his people.

   The internet is roughly analogous to the invention of the printing press which turned out both Bibles and corrupt knowledge, and for a time it was wide open access to much that the gatekeepers had kept from men. Homeschooling with the intent to seek truth & avoid the bondage of the world led me away from dependence upon the system & blind trust in men, though not perfectly, and in the spirit of Proverbs 31 & with the warning of Proverbs 14:1, I sought the welfare of myself & family through lifestyle & nutrition, & learned much that has proven useful. The scriptures also kept me from the bogus vegetarianism of the cults, reading further to the post-Flood admonitions & commandments given Noah; and from the folly of wresting the rainbow sign of God’s promise not to judge the corrupt world by water ever again ….to negate the just-as-sure promise that the next universal corruption judgments are the 70th week of Daniel & terrible time of Jacob’s trouble, followed by judgment by fire & the dissolution of all things at the end of the millenium.

   Call me ‘negative’ and ‘unloving’. Doesn’t change the truth.

   I also learned to beware that union of creationism that eschewed the preserved scriptures for those ‘originals’ divined by certain men who then stood in the place of the Holy Spirit as gatekeepers & interpreters, learned that there was a whole other game of censorship going on there, such as the truth of ‘evolution’s source with Erasmus Darwin & the ‘new Corinthians’, Hellfire Club etc born of reading the pagans’ filth & receiving it before the scripture, & as justification for his & his ‘class’s lechery & side interests of philosophy & fornication, escape from Christian responsibility & duty, as his hobby of ‘erotic poetry’. Or claiming that the Darwin’s and Wedgewood’s were ‘Christian’ when they were Unitarians of craft. Again: the Lord saved me out of that: why would I go back?
   And why would professing men of God & ‘science’ censor that information & purposely skew their so-called ‘dialogue’ and pursuit of truth? And there are many other tabus relating to the controversies of the Copernicans and Brahe, which Einstein & others of his era at least started out being honest about as a matter of faith, impossible to utterly prove other than by scripture. So much dumbing down & censorship. For what?

   So, I’ve also had my eyes opened to much corruption in surprising places….at least to a modern day Christian. And what of the suppression and corruption of baptist history in this nation & the world at large? Barton’s lies. Pinto’s selective testimony & stance with the European Daughters of Romanism never come all the way out?

   How amazing it is to see the road & association narrowing again & again as truth is handled deceitfully, and to read those Psalms with David & the Lord, acknowledging my own sin & lack with theirs along the way. The way is indeed narrow, and narrowing.

   How, save by the catching away, the spewing of Laodicea, the time of Jacob’s trouble & Daniel’s 70th week turning back to working primarily through the Jews & signs & wonders as prophesied, & with much….the worst ever….tribulation, could the just wrath of God do the necessary work while saving the remnant? The sides of Gog & Magog and Antichrist are lining up. The builders and gods are, and shall, fail, and it is as the days of Noe & Lot more & more everyday. The churches of this era & predominantly gentile Christians, the strange slips graffed in to the olive tree, are repeating and committing the same sins as those they boast over as Jew-hate, and with their various forms of compromised Romish eschatology & the confusion of Augustinian & Origen Alexandrian corruption & kabala & Talmudism still strangely received, & promoted, ‘merging’ and ‘uniting’ with the errors of Rome & apostate Jewry!? Romans 9-11 in living color lurching toward Revelation 6-19 and the fulfillment of Daniel & the prophets.

   Forgive me if the simplicity of Christ clashes with post hoc ergo propter hoc ‘logical fallacy’. Beyond acknowledging some simple examples of red herrings and straw men type fallacies & such in the word of God….I fear the many words of philosophy & tradition, & their snares waaaaaaay more than I do remaining with the little ones & the simple who just have Christ & the scriptures. And included in that, the world’s ‘science falsely so-called’.

   The fact is: I’m still here, & alive….and observing what I’m told I do not see & that I should not open my mind & eyes to consider outside the bounds of the global corporatist brotherhood State-certified blinders. I’m experiencing what I should not according to them & the bondage and illegitimate subservience which they promote; and evidencing & witnessing to a power & truth beyond theirs that chafes certain established powers presuming to stand in the place of God & his word & way. And no pharma-drugging, mystical techniques & disciplines, no extended counsel of such, or superstitious mysticism necessary: just evident truth and the King James Bible.

   In my own very small & imperfect way, this thing that is foolishness to the world & an offense to certain of the religious, testifies that that old ‘heretic’ remnant of that old harassed & bloody trail is still here & being kept of God, & called out in spite of themselves, simply receiving: still not a part of their Babylonian unity in spirit, refusing their initiations as recognized…. though perhaps at times tempted & seduced, deceived, to lean that way or fall over the line to loss & shame, bringing reproach to the cause of Christ. The Lord knows.

   Jesus did say it would be so subtle as to deceive the very elect were it possible. And it is written: They will not repent. Re 9:20 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk:
   Re 9:21 Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.

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7. I gave you my biblical objections, full counsel, as far as I’m able to express it. Here are my specific responses ….I did not say that changing one’s diet could cure breast cancer. I said that I decided to go the way of lifestyle & diet, rather than the system’s way. The argument being that the cure can’t be worse than the disease or condition. I could never list all the studies I’ve read concerning cancer, nutrition & so forth….or addressing it. It fills volumes, & was acquired over years, even decades of study not demanding that it bring an income or fame to any institution or system, but simply a pursuit of truth & desiring to live a life pleasing to God & in harmony with his word.

   There is a difference.

   I simply chose what harmonized with scripture, and did not violate it; and which met the demands of my circumstances, particular type of cancer & diagnosis. Considering also what I had observed of the system from inside and out.

   Cancer involves a mutation of cell metabolism & corruption of genetic information/instructions. If you ‘cut it out’….which is wise if the growth impinges on some organ or function necessary to life, but do not address what caused the metabolic & genetic informational changes: the cancer will recur. Also, the physiological response to the shock & stress of surgery should be considered, & the likelihood of it spreading the damaged, or corrupted, cells to lodge & grow elsewhere in the body.

   In my case, the type of cancer was not immediately threatening or fast-growing, and has been shown not to respond well to chemotherapy & radiation….while those things weaken one’s ability to fight the cancer & actually worsen the condition. The oncologist acknowledged that, but the system said he had to do it anyway. I couldn’t elect even to have the demonstrably, and admitted, more effective treatment of surgery, using less poisonous supporting supplementation, but had to proceed a,b, and c. The motivation to do such an illogical thing was fear, and awe.

   Looking at the statistics on outcomes & length of life with such treatment, or simply living with the cancer, monitoring with bloodwork independently, noting what was ‘working’ and what not, worsening or lessening the symptoms or growth, spread etc …..there was no statistical difference, and much exciting science in line with scripture showing hope for a much better quality of life, & without enslavement. For, you see, the chemo & radiation kill more than cancer. They kill certain body functions relating to hormones & organs like the thyroid, pancreas, lymph nodes & systems so that one not only is a debt-slave to the initial cost of those treatments, but on a lifetime dependence upon very expensive drugs to artificially do what those organs & systems, chemicals etc killed or severely debilitated by the treatments which admittedly didn’t address my concern…..and which also all have ‘side effects’ or other adverse consequences, used to, and still were, doing & accomplishing.

   This is what often leads to people being on 20 to 30 prescriptions, & with terrible quality of life, in fear and dependent upon the system….when some simple & common sense lifestyle or nutrition & supplementation can in a much gentler, and much cheaper way, without impairing one’s mind & thinking, be as…..or even more….effective.

   It made no sense to me. And I had long been troubled by drugging the elderly into such senselessness that they couldn’t entertain or respond to the Gospel if they wanted to. So much was not adding up. I’d also studied outcomes & means of euthanasia in the Netherlands & such, and the hindrances to actually addressing those things due to the structure of the medical & health professions, institutions, training, funding, & so forth.

   Actually, studying the evolution & creation issue was a great help, & that, in turn, also shed some sad light on why much of the Christian and Creationist camps were not able to more effectively address that, and other dehumanizing and antichrist trends & practices.

   If you look into the funding and the policing & certification apparatus of placebo controlled trials, and how they steer, refuse & sabotage studies….then torpedo anything as ‘anecdotal’ etc that doesn’t end with the outcome & financial reward they desire. You will understand much more of my concern, and of what this covid thing is all about, & the many contributing streams of corruption involved. On the other hand, if you are vested in those things emotionally or financially, or both….you may not, & such things are very deceptive. It has never ceased to amaze me how certain folks would rail on certain ‘logical fallacies’ etc when it was a secular humanist or such committing them, straining at gnats even…..but then accept or commit the very same, and more crass examples of them when it suited their own interests or idols: swallowing camels.

   I have no clue about post hoc ergo propter hoc, beyond the fact that it is Latin…..and, after…something given the literary clue to English. If it is circular reasoning, well those whose faith is in God are accused of circular reasoning, and those whose faith is in men’s science can be accused of circular reasoning, but only God knows the truth of where one’s heart truly begins & ends. There are limitations to men’s philosophies & traditions. Whenever I sense the same suffocating confusion of a psych-sorcerer seeking to control or manipulate, rather than educating & pointing me to the same God every Christian & every thought is to be captive & subject to….even if it calls itself Christian, and Christian authority: alarms go off. And the study of men’s philosophy is like that.

   I resist whatever seeks to illegitimately manipulate or violate soul, or body. Especially when we’re talking blood and the book of life type of DNA in my cells. There’s fornication, & there is fornication; and there is keeping oneself and keeping oneself. I hope that more concisely & plainly sets forth & communicates what I am trying to say here.

   You have a voice & power of influence, & that comes with great responsibility. I do not seek to force or manipulate you, nor to speak up or down to you, but from the level ground at the foot of the cross. And I would not see you, or anyone else, blindsided by these things physically or spiritually. I am assuming you are right with God & ready to enter into his presence, but there are foolish ways to accomplish that, as well as wise. Please avail yourself of information on how to possibly counter any adverse effects, & how these technologies actually work, & what they involve. Enough said.

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8. I must say, Denise, that for some cancer patients, some of your comments are appallingly offensive.

   I’d like to specifically address this: “Medical trials are funded & promoted according to the same standards as evolution & creation, ”

   That’s actually just complete nonsense, and is exactly what Brother Ross warned of: bearing false witness. Evolutionary “studies” aren’t repeating macro-evolutionary processes in controlled conditions because macro-evolutionary processes have never happened and they can’t make them happen.

   Medical trials are repeated trials under controlled conditions.

   One is promoted by those with an agenda to support a God-denying historical narrative about how the world came into being.

   The other is promoted and funded by those who are trying to measure the effectiveness and side-effects of medicines which may (or may not) work to limit or even cure diseases. Much of the funding comes from charitable giving with a hope (perhaps fulfilled, perhaps not) to reduce suffering.

   It is true that some funding for both evolutionary “studies” and medical studies comes from governments, and that there may be political agendas driving them. It is true that medical studies can be skewed by dishonest (or perhaps deceived) individuals. Neither of those statements justifies your statement. They don’t have the same standards, they don’t have the same purpose, they aren’t promoted in the same way, and they aren’t primarily funded in the same way.

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9. Dear Bro Gleason,

   Good point; agreed.

   Dear Denise,

   Thanks for taking the time to write that very long comment.

   I may have missed it in there, but could you please give me the strongest arguments you have read from the best scientists arguing that surgery and so on actually cure breast cancer much better than just changing your diet, and surgury has a much, much higher long term survival rate, and how, specifically, you have proven them wrong? What is your refutation of, say, the relevant articles in the New England Journal of Medicine?

   Also, perhaps you can explain what the strongest arguments you have read in favor of the superiority of placebo controlled trials and their superiority to unverified testimonials, and why you believe (if you believe this) that the unverified testimonials are just as good or better than medical trials.

   Have you read anything about the post hoc ergo propter hoc logical fallacy? If you think post hoc ergo propter hoc is not a fallacy, perhaps you could also explain what you have read on both sides of this as well and you refutation for the strongest arguments on the other side.

   This isn’t just fun and games. I am not your doctor and don’t know what he or she said to you, but if you have breast cancer and don’t take it out you are very likely to die, and then you can’t serve in the Lord’s church, help your family and children if you have any, etc. If you have surgery and nothing else you are much less likely to die, but still more likely than if you follow recommended treatment protocols.

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10. (Format is still not working)
    – I had what I think are reasonable comments about, perhaps even answers, to some of the questions asked in the comments section of the previous article about COVID-19 (https://kentbrandenburg.com/2021/04/30/why-i-got-covid-vaccine/). Unfortunately, comments were closed before I was able to post.

    Here are some thoughts:

    – How does anyone know for sure that placebo trials are really unbiased? In an honest world, no one should have any trouble making decisions based on scholarly research, but all it takes is one dishonest or even one simply careless person in the right place to completely skew results. In the end, everyone is still taking someone’s word that the results are fair and accurate.

    -The main source for finding information on trials and such seems to be the internet. Is the internet unbiased? I think not.

    – All data must be interpreted. Character and bias of the interpreter is determinative. Anecdotal data and blind test data are equally data – the data becomes knowledge (what one knows) if interpreted rightly.

    – Nonacceptance of objective truth (Bible) by those conducting any test or evaluating any data is likely to affect their conclusions.

    – All people are motivated to interpret according to their predisposition/assumptions.

    -When a person does not know what is true, deciding a course of action becomes a not-very-concrete weighing of “Is this person trustworthy?”, Is this person knowledgeable on the subject?”, “What does this person have to gain by convincing me that his way is best?” and many other questions. This lack of black-and-white can be very irritating to people who love the apparent clarity of the scientific method. Ultimately, a person decides what information is most credible and what to act on.

    – Natural treatments often use a whole-body approach and combine several different things in hopes of strengthening the body to fight the disease. Isolating each treatment may result in significantly less positive results. Lack of interest (for various reasons) on the part of those conducting studies may mean they may not choose the treatment that would have been the fairest representation of natural treatment and may mean no further studies are conducted.

    – One’s state of mind, including the stress he or she is facing, can have profound effects on the body. A person who knows that his or her body reacts particularly strongly to stress (mental and/or physical) might consider a “less effective,” but also less stressful treatment to be the better choice.

    JLC

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11. Hello JLC,

    Thanks for the comment. In keeping with the theme of this post, can you tell me what arguments you have read against your contention that placebo controlled trials can have just one careless person completely skew results, and, in your mind, places like leading medical journals just publish stuff like that so we can’t trust them? I can think of many severe problems with this allegation, but this post is about how we evaluate data. So please tell me what the strongest arguments are that you have read against this contention and what your refutation of them is.

    Maybe you can explain your apparent equivocation on “The New England Journal of Medicine can be published on the Internet in an e-version; Uncle Jobab’s video on his miracle cancer curing moss is on the Internet; whatever is on the Internet is biased, etc.” and explain what you believe would be the strongest responses to this allegation of yours and why you believe the responses fail.

    Please also tell me the strongest things you have read against the “what is natural is good” fallacy and why you believe a “natural” treatment is superior, refuting the arguments that claim “natural” = “good” is a fallacy, and explaining specifically what a “natural” treatment is and ho it differs from an “unnatural” one. Is hemlock natural? Are orange carrots unnatural, since they have been bred / genetically altered to become more nutritious? Thanks.

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