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Bart D. Ehrman’s Did Jesus Exist? Useful Quotes for Christians, part 1 of 4
existence:
should emphatically state the obvious.
Every single source that mentions Jesus up until the eighteenth century
assumed that he actually existed. That
is true no matter what period you choose to examine: the Reformation, the Renaissance, the Middle
Ages, Late Antiquity, and before. It is
true of every source from our earliest periods, the fourth century, the third
century, the second century, and the first century. It is true of every author of every kind,
Christian, Jewish, or pagan. Most
striking, it is true not just of those who came to believe in Jesus but also of
nonbelievers in general and of the opponents of Christianity in particular. . .
. Not even the Jewish and pagan antagonists who attacked Christianity and Jesus
himself entertained the thought that he never existed. This is quite clear from reading the writings
of the Christian apologists, starting with such authors as the . . . writer of
the Letter to Diognetus and the more famous writers Justin Martyr, Tertullian,
and Origen (all from the second and early third centuries), all of whom defend
Jesus against a number of charges, many of them scandalous. But they do not drop one hint that anyone
claimed he did not exist. The same is
clear from the fragments of writings that still survive from the opponents of
the Christians, such as the Jew Trypho, discussed by Justin, or the pagan philosopher
Celsus, cited extensively by Origen. The
idea that Jesus did not exist is a modern notion. It has no ancient precedents. It was made up in the eighteenth
century. One might well call it a modern
myth, the myth of the mythical Jesus.[1]
skeptical literature . . . [denying or questioning] whether Jesus existed as a
human being . . . none of this literature is written by scholars trained in New
Testament or early Christian studies teaching at the major, or even the minor,
accredited theological seminaries, divinity schools, universities, or colleges
of North America or Europe (or anywhere else in the world). Of the thousands of scholars of early Christianity
who do teach at such schools, none of them, to my knowledge, has any doubts
that Jesus existed. . . . The reality is that whatever else you may think about
Jesus, he certainly did exist. . . . [T]he view that Jesus existed is held by
virtually every expert on the planet. . . . [E]very relevant ancient source . .
. assumes that there was such a man . . . It is striking that virtually
everyone who has spent all the years needed to attain [scholarly]
qualifications is convinced that Jesus of Nazareth was a real historical
figure. . . . Many of these scholars have no vested interest in the
matter. As it turns out, I myself do not
either. I am not a Christian, and I have
no interest in promoting a Christian cause or a Christian agenda.
I am an agnostic with atheist leanings . . . I am an agnostic who does
not believe the Bible is the inspired word of God. . . . Jesus existed, and
those vocal persons who deny it do so not because they have considered the
evidence with the dispassionate eye of the historian, but because they have
some other agenda that this denial serves.
From a dispassionate point of view, there was a Jesus of Nazareth.[2]
is fair to say that mythicists as a group, and as individuals. . . . Arthur
Drews . . . Earl Doherty . . . Robert Price . . . Thomas L. Thompson . . .
Richard Carrier . . . George A Wells . . . D. M. Murdock[,] . . . nom de plume
Acharya S . . . are not taken seriously by the vast majority of scholars in the
fields of New Testament, early Christianity, ancient history, and
theology. This is widely recognized, to their
chagrin, by mythicists themselves.[3]
reputable university, of course, professors cannot teach simply anything. They need to be academically responsible and
reflect the views of scholarship. That
is probably why there are no mythicists—at least to my knowledge—teaching
religious studies at accredited universities or colleges in North America and
Europe . . . their views are not widely seen as academically respectable by
members of the academy. . . . [M]ythicists . . . [are] marginal. . . . [T]he
mythicist view does not have a foothold, or even a toehold, among modern
critical scholars of the Bible.[4]
define myth:
do mythicists define what they mean by the term myth, a failure that strikes real scholars of religion as both
unfortunate and highly problematic[.][5]
widespread:
decades [Jesus mythicism] was the dominant view in countries such as the Soviet
Union. . . . Vladimir Ilyich Lenin . . . [was] convinced that Jesus was not a
real historical figure. This, in large
measure, led to the popularity of the myth theory in the emerging Soviet Union.[6]
agnostics, atheists, mythicists . . . wrongly and counterproductively . . .
insist . . . that Jesus never existed. Jesus did exist. . . . It is no accident
that virtually all mythicists (in fact, all of them, to my knowledge) are
either atheists or agnostics. The ones I
know anything about are quite virulently, even militantly, atheist. . . .
[M]ythicists all live in a Christian world for which Christianity is the
religion of choice for the vast bulk of the population. . . . And mythicists
are avidly antireligious. . . . What this means is that, ironically, just as
the secular humanists spend so much time at their annual meetings talking about
religion, so too the mythicists who are so intent on showing that the
historical Jesus never existed are not being driven by a historical concern. Their agenda is religious, and they are
complicit in a religious ideology. They are
not doing history; they are doing theology.
theology in order to oppose traditional religion. But the opposition is driven not by historical
concerns but by religious ones. . . . [A]s a historian[,] when I try to
reconstruct what actually happened in the past[,] I refuse to sacrifice the
past in order to promote the worthy cause of my own social and political
agendas. No one else should,
either. Jesus did exist, whether we like
it or not.[7]
every relevant ancient source . . . assumes that there was such a man, and
since no scholar who has ever written on it, except the handful of mythicists,
has ever had any serious doubts, surely the burden of proof does not fall on
those who take the almost universally accepted position.[8]
S[.] [or] D. M. Murdock published the breathless conspirator’s dream: The
Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story
Ever Sold. . . . This book [argues] . . . that Christianity is rooted in a
myth about the sun-god Jesus, who was [allegedly] invented by a group of Jews
in the second century CE.
surprised that their views are not taken seriously by real scholars, that their
books are not reviewed in scholarly journals, mentioned by experts in the
field, or even read by them. The book is
filled with so many factual errors and outlandish assertions that it is hard to
believe that the author is serious. If
she is serious, it is hard to believe that she has ever encountered anything
resembling historical scholarship. Her
“research” appears to have involved reading a number of nonscholarly books that
say the same thing she is about to say and then quoting them. One looks in vain for the citation of a
primary ancient source, and quotations from real experts (Elaine Pagels,
chiefly) are ripped from their context and misconstrued. . . . One cannot help
wondering if this is all a spoof[.] . . . [A]ll of Acharya’s major points are
in fact wrong. Jesus was not invented
[as she claims] in Alexandria, Egypt, in the middle of the second Christian
century. He was known already in the 30s
of the first century, in Jewish circles in Palestine. He was not originally a sun-god (as if that
equals Son-God!) . . . [but] a Jewish prophet and messiah. There are no astrological phenomena associated
with Jesus in any of our earliest traditions.
These traditions are attested in multiple sources that originated at
least a century before Acharya’s alleged astrological creation at the hands of
people who lived in a different part of the world from the historical Jesus[.]
. . . In short, if there is any conspiracy here, it is not on the part of the
ancient Christians who [allegedly] made up Jesus but on the part of modern
authors who make up stories about the ancient Christians and what they believed
about Jesus.[9]
pagan myths:
Timothy Freke and Peter Gandy [in] The
Jesus Mysteries: Was the “Original
Jesus” a Pagan God? . . . [argue that] Jesus was a creation based on the
widespread mythologies of dying and rising gods known throughout the pagan
world. . . .
scandalized by such assertions—or they would be if they bothered to read Freke
and Gandy’s book. The authors provide no
evidence for their claims concerning the standard mythology of the godmen. They cite no sources from the ancient world
that can be checked. It is not that they
have provided an alternative interpretation of the available evidence. They have not even cited the available
evidence. And for good reason. No such
evidence [for pagan godmen] exists.
Osiris was born on December 25 before three shepherds? Or that he was crucified? And that his death brought atonement for
sin? Or that he returned to life on
earth by being raised from the dead? In
fact, no ancient source says any such thing about Osiris (or about the other
gods). . . . Freke and Gandy . . . “prove” it by quoting other writers from the
nineteenth and twentieth centuries who said so.
But these writers too do not cite any historical evidence. This is all based on assertion, believed by
Freke and Gandy simply because they read it somewhere. This is not serious historical scholarship.
It is sensationalist writing driven by a desire to sell books. . . . [W]hat we
know about Jesus—the historical Jesus—does not come from Egypt toward the end of
the first century, in circles heavily influenced by pagan mystery religions,
but from Palestine, among Jews committed to their decidedly antipagan Jewish
religion, from the 30s. . . . [Their] book [is] . . . filled with patently false information and
inconsistencies. . . . The views they assert . . . no scholars hold to them
today.[10]
don’t have a single description in any source of any kind of baptism in the
mystery religions. . . . [T]he Greek name Jesus . . . is the Greek name for the
Aramaic Yeshua, Hebrew Joshua. It is
found in the Greek Old Testament, for example, long before the Gospel writers
lived and is a common name in the writings of the Jewish historian Josephus. .
. . [In relation to the mythicist contention that the] [“]Romans were renowned
for keeping careful records of all their activities, especially their legal
proceedings,” making it surprising that “there is no record of Jesus being
tried by Pontius Pilate or executed” . . . If Romans were careful record keepers,
it is passing strange that we have no records, not only of Jesus, but of nearly
anyone who lived in the first
century. We simply don’t have birth
notices, trial records, death certificates—or other standard kinds of records that
one has today. [Mythicists who make this argument], of course, do not cite a
single example of anyone else’s death warrant from the first century.[11]
D. Ehrman, Did Jesus Exist? The
Historical Argument for Jesus of Nazareth (New York, NY: HarperCollins, 2012) 96.
D. Ehrman, Did Jesus Exist? The
Historical Argument for Jesus of Nazareth (New York, NY: HarperCollins, 2012) 2, 4-7, 37, 71
D. Ehrman, Did Jesus Exist? The
Historical Argument for Jesus of Nazareth (New York, NY: HarperCollins, 2012) 17-21.
D. Ehrman, Did Jesus Exist? The
Historical Argument for Jesus of Nazareth (New York, NY: HarperCollins, 2012) 220, 268.
D. Ehrman, Did Jesus Exist? The
Historical Argument for Jesus of Nazareth (New York, NY: HarperCollins, 2012) 3.
D. Ehrman, Did Jesus Exist? The
Historical Argument for Jesus of Nazareth (New York, NY: HarperCollins, 2012) 3, 17.
D. Ehrman, Did Jesus Exist? The
Historical Argument for Jesus of Nazareth (New York, NY: HarperCollins, 2012) 336-339.
D. Ehrman, Did Jesus Exist? The
Historical Argument for Jesus of Nazareth (New York, NY: HarperCollins, 2012) 38-39.
D. Ehrman, Did Jesus Exist? The
Historical Argument for Jesus of Nazareth (New York, NY: HarperCollins, 2012) 21-25. Dr. Ehrman continues:
this sensationalist tome, I list a few of the howlers one encounters[.] . . .
Acharya claims that:
mentions any of the Gospels (25). [This simply isn’t true: he mentions the Gospels on numerous occasions
. . . and quotes from them, especially from Matthew, Mark, and Luke.]
events they narrate. (26) [In fact, the Gospels were written [in] the first
century . . . and we have physical proof . . . [in a] Gospel manuscript [that]
dates to the early second century. How
could it have been forged centuries after that?
prior to the fourth century (26). [This
is just plain wrong: We have numerous
fragmentary manuscripts that date from the second and third centuries.] . . .
writings of Paul . . . he does quote sayings of Jesus.]
trial and execution, was once considered canonical. (44). [None of our sparse references to the Acts of
Pilate indicates, or even suggests, any such thing.]
as in magic, hypnosis and delusion” (45). [No, the word gospel comes to us from the Old English term god spel, which means “good news”—a fairly precise translation of
the Greek word euaggelion. It has nothing to do with magic.
opponents of Gnostics in the early church.]
Murdock’s utter lack of even a rudimentary understanding of the topic on which
she writes.
Ehrman, Did Jesus Exist? The Historical
Argument for Jesus of Nazareth (New York, NY: HarperCollins, 2012) 25-27.
Ehrman, Did Jesus Exist? The Historical
Argument for Jesus of Nazareth (New York, NY: HarperCollins, 2012) 28-29.
The Testimonies of Josephus to Jesus Christ Vindicated, part 1 of 2
This latter passage was recognized as authentic for the large majority of church history, but it is questioned today by many, although it has been defended as authentic by both conservative and liberal scholars. There are good reasons to believe that the passage, in its entirety, is authentic. Rather than reinvent the wheel, I reprint below the (out of copyright) argument for authenticity from the most widely printed edition of Josephus today, that translated by William Whiston (The Works of Josephus, Complete and Unabridged, ed. William Whiston, pgs. 815-823):
Historic Fundamentalism: What is it?
So is “historic fundamentalism” opposed to the Greek critical text—is it King James Only? Why or why not?
by Edwin J. Orr, who “was unconcerned to defend a literal interpretation of
the early chapters of Genesis, and [who] took the view that an insistence on
biblical inerrancy was actually ‘suicidal.’”[2]
who represents “historic fundamentalism”—Bishop or Orr? Does “historic fundamentalism” defend an
inerrant autographa, an inerrant autographa that is perfectly preserved
in the Textus Receptus, or errant
autographs and apographs?
while cessationists are amply represented in early fundamentalism, the writings
of Jessie Penn-Lewis appear also in The
Fundamentals.[3] So does “historic fundamentalism” follow
Scriptural cessationism and the sole authority of Scripture, or Mrs.Penn-Lewis’s fanaticism, radical demonology, Quakerism, date-setting for Christ’s return, and allegedly “inspired” extra-Biblical writings—one of which
is condensed in The Fundamentals?
which portion of the authors in The
Fundamentals represent “historic fundamentalism”? Is it the “Inner Light” that is allegedly equal to Scripture, as taught by the Quaker Jessie Penn-Lewis? Is it the inerrant original manuscripts
perfectly preserved in the Textus
Receptus as affirmed by George Sayles Bishop? Is it the recognition that verbal, plenary
inspiration is a false and indeed a “suicidal” position, as affirmed by Orr?
it whatever the person speaking about “historic fundamentalism” wants it to be?
unified “historic fundamentalism” is a chimera, and even if it had existed, it
would possess no independent authority—the Christian’s sole authority is the
Bible alone, and the Bible teaches that every religious organization on earth in this dispensation, if it wants to have the special presence of Jesus Christ, must be under the authority of one of His churches. Fundamentalist
para-church institutions are not churches.
Do you value the Lord’s church in the way that One does who bought her
with His blood (Ephesians 5:25)? If you do not, but are following some
movement, whether evangelical, fundamental, or by any other name, your
organization does not possess the promises Christ makes to His church
alone. Beware lest Christ say to you,
and to your organization, “cut it down; why cumbereth it the ground?” (Luke 13:7).
pillar and ground of the truth (1 Timothy 3:15)—the church, the local, visible,
Baptist congregation, is the place of God’s special presence, His special
protection from Satan and his kingdom, and His promises of perpetuity and
blessing until the return of Jesus Christ (Matthew 16:18). No promises of Christ’s special presence or
protection are made to the mythical universal, invisible church, parachurch
institutions, human denominations, or inter-denominational movements such as
evangelicalism.
fundamentalism,” and, even if it had existed, it would have no authority
whatever to determine what are Biblical doctrine and practice for the Lord’s
churches.
See the “Inspiration of the Hebrew
Letters and Vowel Points,” pgs. 43-59 of The
Doctrines of Grace and Kindred Themes, George Sayles Bishop (New York,
NY: Gospel Publishing House, 1919; note as well his “Relative Value of the Old
Testament” (pgs. 88-100) and “The Testimony of Scripture To Itself,” pgs.
19-42). The KJV-only, Landmark Baptist
periodical The Plains Baptist Challenger,
a ministry of Tabernacle Baptist Church of Lubbock, TX, on pgs. 3-8 of its
July 1991 edition, reprinted George Sayles Bishop’s defense, based on Matthew
5:18, of the coevality of the vowel points and the consonants. Bishop was a contributor to the epoch-making
volumes The Fundamentals (“The
Testimony of the Scriptures to Themselves,” pgs. 80-97, vol. 2, The Fundamentals, eds. R. A. Torrey, A.
C. Dixon, etc., Grand Rapids, MI: Baker
Books, 1970, reprint of the original 1917 ed. of the Bible Institute of Los
Angeles), writing: “We take the ground
that on the original parchment . . . every sentence, word, line, mark, point,
pen-stroke, jot, tittle was put there by God” (pg. 92, The Fundamentals, vol 2.).
Pg. 492, Biographical
Dictionary of Evangelicals, “Orr, James,” ed. Timothy Larsen, referencing
Orr’s Revelation and Inspiration
[1910], p. 198. See, e. g., “The Holy Scriptures and Modern Negations,”
“The Early Narratives of Genesis” (Chapters 5 & 11 The Fundamentals, ed. Torrey, vol. 1; Orr wrote other articles also).
Pgs. 183-199, Chapter 13, “Satan and
his Kingdom,” The Fundamentals, ed.
Torrey, vol. 4. Her chapter is condensed
from The Warfare with Satan and the Way
of Victory.
Paul Obliterates Pandering in Galatians: His Antidote to Pandering
The Judaizers at Galatia pandered to the Jews in the region. They wanted to make a “fair show” to their ethnicity and they wished to avoid persecution. Circumcision was a convenient emphasis over the cross of Christ, even though it nullified grace and the work of Christ became no effect unto them. The Jews of Galatia didn’t have the same effect on Paul and he tells why in the next to last verse of the entire epistle (6:17):
From henceforth let no man trouble me: for I bear in my body the marks of the Lord Jesus.
Persecution was a threat to professing Christians, so a motivating factor to pander (6:12). Paul, however, wasn’t doing any handwringing over that possibility. Anything that they could have done to Paul, he had already experienced. His body was his biography and an anatomical masterpiece of perseverance. His kryptonite to Jewish intimidation was the scars of his personal suffering for Jesus. There was no pain that Paul had not already experienced. If he was going to fold under pressure, he would have already.
Paul’s marks were actual marks. He could place an index finger on spots all over himself as the evidence of ugly wounds, each with an accompanying story. No one could trouble him.
On the other hand, men can be trouble to other men. You read this all over the Bible. It was a concern of Solomon about young men in the first chapter of Proverbs. Sinners would entice. They would be trouble. Something they were offering in the short term would look better than what God could give. It’s never true, but it merited a serious warning from Solomon. The prospect of missing out on a fun time or not getting to look impressive to the appropriate people seem like enough trouble. Something far worse wouldn’t be trouble for Paul.
The Galatian churches shouldn’t be trouble for Paul either. They should have welcomed some marks to match his. If they were saved, they were, like Paul, crucified to the world. The cross of Christ was how they received justification before God. Their salvation came because of the Savior’s suffering, because of His marks. Paul bore them too. Joining Him outside the camp. Pandering comes with the proposal of a better time in this world and glory received for a fair showing. It’s not about the truth, but what will work on a momentary basis.
Doctrines and practices, once believed and lived in churches for over a thousand years, have disappeared like they never existed in a majority of churches today. They are difficult teachings, unacceptable to this world, although required by the next. Rather than preach and live those teachings, the majority of churches pander like the Judaizers did.
If the Judaizers really cared about circumcision, they would keep the rest of the law too. Circumcision was a convenience though. It would provide the most acceptance at the least possible cost.
For Paul, it was preaching only the cross of Christ. Today, like then, that message isn’t good enough. The Judaizers were ancient advocates of contextualization, making the cross more appetizing to their context with a circumcision sugar-coat. A spoonful of circumcision might make the cross of Christ go down.
Churches today impress a different context, one obsessed with creature comfort. They have a Jesus who might slide down easier with the right mix of worldly and fleshly entertainment or amusement. Not only do you make it through unscathed, mark-free, but with a slightly Christianized version of almost everything the world has and does. That is trouble everywhere in Christianity today.
When even the Apostle Peter pandered to the James gang, as recounted in Galatians 2, Paul, the least of all apostles, confronted him to his face in harsh terms, not uncertain ones. Peter was becoming an accessory, even if he didn’t accept the perversion himself. This is the case of a lot of professing Christian leaders today. They see the damage, but they don’t want to hurt their numbers or coalitions, so they sign-off on the pandering that makes up such a big part of evangelical and fundamentalist churches today.
Abiding in Christ: What Does it Mean? part 8 of 9: Exposition of John 15:6-11
Church Autonomy, Pastoral Authority, Closed Communion, and the Gospel: The Means Becoming the End
I believe scripture teaches church autonomy, pastoral authority, and closed communion — all three. I think I’m strong on all three, because scripture teaches all three. If you lose the gospel, none of the three matter any more though.
Church autonomy, pastoral authority, and closed communion are about protecting and propagating the truth. They are a means to an end. The end isn’t church autonomy, pastoral authority, and closed communion. Those are tools in the toolbox, so to speak. They are tools by which the truth and a sub category of that, the gospel, can be protected and propagated. If the truth and the gospel aren’t protected and propagated, then those three don’t matter any more. You don’t even have a church without the truth and the gospel.
As I say that, my first questions for you aren’t, what do you believe about the nature of the church, church autonomy, pastoral authority, and closed communion? I’m asking you first what you believe about the gospel, because you don’t even have a church without the gospel. I’m saying that I believe some churches are more concerned about their own autonomy and pastors, their authority, then they are the gospel itself.
The three and perhaps a few others — whether you use the King James and what’s the nature of the church — in practice seem to take preeminence over the gospel among some professing Baptists, including unaffiliated Baptist churches. I’m asking you to think about it.
I’m glad our church is autonomous. It is again because the Bible teaches autonomy. Autonomy allows the Bible as our authority. We are not subject the compromise and corruption of hierarchical authority. The certain means of purity God gave to individual churches can have their full effect on the preservation of the truth and the gospel. God designed for the truth to be kept by a church. You get it outside of individual church authority and the means are diminished for protecting the truth.
I’m glad for pastoral authority. The point of pastoral authority isn’t to make it easier for a pastor to corrupt the truth and the gospel. Pastoral authority is not a divine right of kings. It has a purpose and is effective for that purpose. The pastor feeds, leads, and protects. He feeds the gospel and the truth. He leads in the gospel and the truth. He protects the sheep from diversion from the truth and corruption of the gospel. It’s not about not being questioned.
I’m glad for closed communion. If communion was supposed to be close or open, I’d go with that. If you practice closed, but you allow truth to be perverted and the gospel altered, then you’ve missed the point of closed. Closed allows for separation. Separation is intended for purity. Purity is purity in the belief and practice of the truth, including the gospel. If you are not protecting your church from a false gospel, but you do protect your church from close and open communion, then you are missing the point of being closed.
I know people who are close in their communion, whose church is far more pure than those who are closed communion. I know those with closed communion with false worship. Communion with God is more important than communion with other church members. If you are not aligned with God in worship, the qualities of your worship are ungodly, then you’ve got a bigger problem the wrong practice of communion. I know those with closed communion, who allow in those who preach another gospel. They won’t allow someone outside of their church to join them in communion, but they have communion with someone who preaches a false gospel. In as simple terms as possible, that’s messed up.
Church autonomy, pastoral authority, and closed communion are the truth. However, I would rather fellowship with someone who emphasizes the truth, all of it, except for those three, than the one who treats those three like they are more important than the truth and the gospel.
Let me close this with a car metaphor. Your acceptance of false worship and a false gospel is like having a blown engine. Your acceptance of close or open communion is like having some dents on the body or fenders, maybe a crack on the windshield. With the latter, at least you can still drive the car. The former you can’t and you won’t.
Bock and Wallace, Reliability of the New Testament
Dallas Theological Seminary with Darrell Bock has what they call a table podcast, which looks like a decorated room with a table and a couple of microphones to do a video podcast. I like the format and would like to do something like it myself — stay tuned because in the next year, I think we might do this. There’s carpet in the room and it looks like Wallace has socks on. That’s fun. You can see him rubbing his feet in the carpet.
I didn’t watch the whole podcast. I watched starting at 16:28 until the end. The format is that Bock is an interviewer and he looks like he is winging it in an intelligent way, as well as Wallace in his answers. I think they are fairly standard and common questions that these two must address all the time as professors in the New Testament department of a seminary. This is not technical. It’s obviously done for lay people to provide what might be considered some basics. There are some pastors that don’t know this basic material, so they should at least watch and at least understand the answers. You could learn something. I learned at least three things from watching, and I’ll let you know.
I’m posting this and commenting on it because it really is a standard presentation in defense of the critical text. A lot of “King James Only” (textus receptus supporters actually) comes into the program. Bock and Wallace are defending the reliability of the New Testament, which for them is a testimony for the critical text against criticisms from the left or the right of them over the same concerns about reliability. The left would say that there is some doubt about the reliability because of the huge number of variants between manuscripts. The right would say that this level of certainty isn’t what believers should expect. I think they do a very good job of answering the left, but a bad job of answering the right.
What I’m writing here about their podcast is motivated by the negative, but I want to start with some positives, not because I think I need to do that to be fair. I mean it when I’m positive. I’m actually positive, not using the sandwich method of criticism. I want to thank them. Bock and Wallace are arguing for the reliability of the New Testament. They are arguing from a naturalistic point of view, but even arguing with naturalism, depending on so-called science, the New Testament stands up to criticism. I’m happy about that.
Bock and Wallace don’t want people ejecting from the New Testament for textual reasons. That’s good. Hurray for them! Bravo! They want people believing the Bible. I think they mean it. I’m happy that Wallace is taking pictures of every Greek manuscript and putting it online. It provides a service. I’m glad someone is funding that. It is a gigantic, monumental task, that someone should do. It’s the Bible! It’s God’s Word! We should know what we have in the way of manuscript evidence. When people challenge us on these means, which they do all the time where I live in our evangelism, we can point to something that debunks their lies, and they are lies.
The condition of the New Testament from a purely naturalistic viewpoint is very good. Wallace is physically proving that by putting up all the textual evidence. It hasn’t been corrupted like the Moslems and atheists and others, who just want to discredit the authority of scripture, would say. They are lying.
Within the talk between Bock and Wallace on reliability of the New Testament, they testify to faith in Christ as well. At one point late in the interview, while talking about a short ending of Mark, Wallace says:
I think his intention is to get the readers to put themselves in the sandals of the disciples, and now what am I gonna do with Jesus? If I want to accept him in his glory the way Peter did in his confession of Jesus as the Christ, I must also accept him in his suffering, and I must carry my cross daily and follow him.
That’s what Mark I think is doing is, “You’re persecuted Christians. You’ve gotta own this and not just read this and casually be a Christian. If you’re gonna be a follower of Jesus, you really better follow him, and that includes suffering.”
I was happy to read that testimony. They were not rejecting the truth about Jesus Christ. Bock says,
We’ve got the declaration of the resurrection. We’ve got the empty tomb. We’ve got those elements. Now I call this the “you make the call” part of the New Testament, and that’s how Mark’s ending. What are you gonna do with this? You’ve got an empty tomb. You’ve got witnesses to an empty tomb. You’ve got a declaration that Jesus is raised from the dead. What are you gonna do with this?
I’m happy they are saying these things. This is not liberalism. This is exalting Jesus.
I said I learned three things. One, Wallace quotes an updated edition of Bart Ehrman’s Misquoting Jesus, admitting the following.
“I don’t disagree with Dr. Metzger. There is no cardinal doctrine that is jeopardized by any of these variants.” And that’s on page 252 of the paperback version of Misquoting Jesus.
That was news to me, and helpful. The other was this statistic from Wallace.
There’s about two-and-a-half million pages of Greek New Testament manuscripts, which means if we have only photographed 20 percent, it’s great job security for me.
Three, Wallace said this.
Now when you actually think about these variants, the other thing I would say is people who make this claim have not compared it to Greco-Roman literature. We have maybe half a dozen manuscripts for the average classical author, and let’s say we had as many as 15 manuscripts for the average classical Greek author that still exist.
You stack those up, and they’d be about four feet high. If you stack up the New Testament manuscripts, the Greek ones as well as early translations which all count as manuscripts in Latin and Coptic and Syriac and Georgian and Gothic and Ethiopic and all that, it’ll be about a mile and a quarter high, four feet versus a mile and a quarter.
OK, so now I come to the negative. When it comes to the reliability of the New Testament, Bock and Wallace, as is so often the case, argue in a naturalistic way. They don’t begin with theological presuppositions, which we should expect from conservative apologists of scripture, who are defending the reliability of the New Testament. Our expectations for the New Testament find their trajectory in the promises of the New Testament. What we should expect of the New Testament comes from the New Testament. Bock and Wallace settle for something less that what believers should expect. They don’t even mention this.
Bock and Wallace argue against the teaching of the New Testament when it comes to what Christians should expect. Why should anyone expect word for word perfection? They don’t deal with that. They leave it alone. Why? Is it really that assumed? The extent of their theological argument, biblical theology, is maybe four points.
To start, Bock and Wallace don’t really say in this portion of their conversation what or who they’re arguing against. I guess it’s supposed to be obvious. They are burdened by something that motivates them to answer. They should have a burden, because the basis of the criticism of their position is legitimate.
The four points are not necessarily in this order, but, one, the critical text doesn’t diminish teaching on the deity of Christ. Two, all the doctrines are preserved in the critical text, not in every individual passage of scripture, but all of them are in the critical text of the New Testament. Three, the absence of “chunk portions” in the critical text, namely Mark 16 and John 8, is defensible theologically and textually. Four, you’ve got more text than is in the Bible between all the manuscripts, so you aren’t missing anything overall that you need, because it’s all in there somewhere. These four points are supposed to alleviate angst, provide calm, and really just be good enough for someone. Question though: is this what we are to expect when we read what we are to expect? Absolutely not.
The textual problems are good enough for Wallace and Bock to deny a doctrine or preservation. Is this a liberal position. Usually this isn’t associated with liberalism, but liberalism comes when doctrines of scripture are rejected for naturalistic reasons. The miracles of Jesus, He did them, but since someone hasn’t seen them, they are rejected. This is conforming the preservation of scripture, and also the degree of reliability, reliability of every word, to just reliability of “doctrines.” This changes the nature of scriptural teaching on reliability. It is against historic doctrine of the church. Their defense is inadequate.
Scripture has a doctrine of preservation. Our views of canonicity are guided by a trajectory that proceeds from expectation from biblical teaching, not naturalism. What we consider scripture comes from scripture. What we believe on preservation should also come from scripture, and Bock and Wallace just ignore that in this interview.
Men expect a perfect text, which is why they defend the textus receptus. At one point, you can hear at least a little concern from Bock, when he says,
[I]t’s a question that does hang over this conversation, and that is the view of the fact that this has been a part of the passing on of Scripture for as long as it has. That actually applies to lots of texts, but this one is probably one of the more prominent ones to which that question gets pursued.
Notice he says, “a part of the passing on of Scripture.” This motivates a continuation of this kind of presentation from them. Believers, true churches, continued to pass this along as scripture. Moderns now reject this. Their grounds are naturalistic, not theological. Scripture doesn’t teach a loss and then restoration of scripture, based on naturalistic grounds. They need to go there, but as is so often the case, they don’t.
Steven Anderson Is a False Teacher Who Believes and Preaches a False Gospel
For various reasons, Steven Anderson has risen to national prominence over the last five or ten years from his home in Tempe, Arizona. I understand his popularity. He is very good at self-promotion and in these postmodern times, Anderson speaks with absolute certainty. I am certain too, that Anderson is a false teacher who believes and preaches a false gospel. He does not preach a biblical, true, or historical gospel.
Steven Anderson purports to be the pastor of the Faithful Word Baptist Church. I give zero credence or recognition to that as a church. It is not faithful word. It isn’t faithful, nor is it based upon the Word of God. It is built upon a false gospel. It can’t be truly Baptist or a church, because historic Baptists have preached repentance as necessary for salvation and since the church is built upon the gospel, it can’t be a church either. I feel sorry for him and his adherents.
And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not.
Keswick’s Unintelligibility: in Keswick’s Errors–an Analysis and Critique of So Great Salvation by Stephen Barabas, part 16 of 17
unbiblically depreciates the importance of sanctification as a process, as
progressive growth. This fact is evident
in direct statements such as that, for Keswick, “[s]anctification is primarily
and fundamentally . . . no[t] a process”[1]
and that the “conventional threefold division” which considers sanctification
as positional, progressive,[2]
and ultimate is not characteristic of Keswick in the way the crisis, gift,
process division is.[3]
This neglect of progressive sanctification also evidences itself in that
Barabas spends only half a page on this aspect of the doctrine. While he spends forty pages describing sanctification
as a crisis and a gift, progressive sanctification gets 1.25% the treatment
that the other aspects receive in Keswick.
Indeed, considering the entire scope of Barabas’s discussion of “God’s
Provision For Sin” and “Consecration,” where the Keswick doctrine of
sanctification as crisis, gift, and process is explicated and contrasted with
the views he deems erroneous, the discussion of progressive sanctification
receives attention only 0.75% of the time.[4] This vast underemphasis stands in stark
contrast to the tremendous amount of Biblical material dealing with progress in
sanctification.
writes in his half page on progressive sanctification is, however, sound; although
it is not properly prominent, nonetheless Keswick is said to accept the
classical doctrine that “experimental sanctification is the day-by-day
transformation of the believer into the image of Christ, and is progressive in
nature. Beginning at regeneration, it
continues all through life, but is never complete.”[5] Barabas indicates his dependence in his
discussion of progressive sanctification upon the exposition of The Law of Liberty in the Spiritual Life
by Evan Hopkins.[6]
Hopkins learned the Higher Life theology from William Boardman and Mr. and Mrs.
Pearsall Smith[7]
and was brought to adopt Keswick theology after looking at the placid face of
one who had received it,[8]
having sat at the feet of the Smiths and Mr. Boardman from the time of the
first spiritualist-hosted Broadlands Conference onwards[9]
even to the last one.[10] In fact, Hopkins “was for years the
acknowledged leader of the Keswick teaching” and “the theologian of the
movement. . . . He spoke at the first Keswick Convention, and appeared at
Keswick as a leader for thirty-nine years without a break. No one was regarded with greater respect
there than he.”[11] While
Hopkins was deeply influenced by the heretics surrounding him at Keswick and
Broadlands, what he states in the section of his book on which Barabas depends[12]
is as Scriptural[13]
as what Barabas derives from him.
Hopkins even admirably affirms, quoting another writer, that in
sanctification “the whole aspect of human nature is transformed.”[14] Barabas claims Keswick acknowledges that the
process aspect of sanctification includes “a soul that is continually
increasing in the knowledge of God, and abounding in fruits of righteousness .
. . [and] continued progress in the development of Christ-like character.”[15]
Such an affirmation is certainly Biblical.
about such affirmations by the Keswick advocate is that they sound remarkably
like the statement by Warfield that the “Holy Spirit . . . cures our sinning
precisely by curing our sinful nature; He makes the tree good that the fruit
may be good,”[16]
yet Barabas inveighs against Warfield’s doctrine as an unscriptural position
that Keswick opposes. If there is no
real difference between the doctrine of Keswick and that of Warfield, Barabas’s
attack on Warfield is, at this point, inexplicable and unjustifiable; if there
is a difference, Barabas does not make its character clear at all. It would have been of great value to see
Barabas attempt to reconcile the classical model of sanctification as
positional, progressive, and ultimate and the “more characteristic” division of
sanctification by Keswick as process, crisis, and gift. Had he successfully done so, one could not
claim that such a reconciliation is impossible.
Unfortunately, Barabas simply asserts that Keswick accepts, although it
deemphasizes, the classic model alongside of its usual and characteristic
process, crisis, and gift model, without the slightest explanation of how the
two apparently strongly divergent positions can both be true. The palpable contradictions between the two
models are ignored, probably because the “Convention is not interested in
academic discussions of theology or ethics, or even adding to the store of
Bible knowledge of those who attend”[17]
and “Keswick furnishes us with . . . no carefully prepared, weighty discourses
of a theological nature.”[18]
Since the classic position that sanctification involves the progressive
transformation of the believer into the image of Christ appears to directly
contradict the Keswick position that God the Holy Ghost does not make the
Christian himself more inwardly holy and less sinful, Keswick’s affirmations
that “purity [is] never a state,”[19]
and that “holiness does not consist in a state of purity”[20]
seem utterly irreconcilable with the classic doctrine of progressive
sanctification it claims to uphold.[21]
Keswick’s affirmations of both its
characteristic crisis, gift, and process model and the classic doctrine of progressive
sanctification appear unintelligible.
Great Salvation, Barabas.
“progressive” in the division of sanctification into positional, progressive,
and ultimate on pgs. 84-85 is noteworthy.
The term “experimental” does not carry within it necessarily the idea of
progress and growth.
Great Salvation, Barabas.
pages. 0.5/66=0.75%.
Great Salvation, Barabas.
Great Salvation, Barabas.
series of papers by the American, Robert Pearsall Smith, on the subject of
Holiness,” and then went to a meeting where he heard R. P. Smith preach. Hearing Smith, Hopkins affirmed: “I felt that he had received an overflowing
blessing, far beyond anything that I knew”—and by means of Robert Smith’s
self-testifying of overflowing Christian joy—although, in truth, Robert P.
Smith was a miserable unconverted wretch who was promulgating sexual thrills as
Spirit baptism at the time—Hopkins came to adopt the Higher Life doctrine of
Boardman and Smith that was then promulgated at the Keswick Convention. The key passage that led Hopkins to the Higher
Life was Mr. Smith’s misinterpretation of 2 Corinthians 9:8, which was, Mr.
Smith averred, an affirmation that Christ “would do all, and would live in [the Christian] His Own Holy Life—the only
Holy Life possible to us,” not, as an examination of the context and
grammatical-historical interpretation would affirm, an affirmation that God
would provide physically for His people who give generously to the needy. Mr. Smith’s view of 2 Corinthians 9:8 became
“Mr. Hopkins[’s] . . . locus classicus,
his Gospel within the Gospel, the sure ground where he had cast his anchor,” so
that “[m]any a time, in the Conventions of the years that followed, Mr. Hopkins
would read this text” and lead many others to the bright discovery of the
Higher Life which was taught by it, when ripped from its context and interpreted
allegorically (pgs. 52-55, Evan Harry
Hopkins: A Memoir, Alexander
Smellie). In 1875 Hopkins took over the
work of Robert P. Smith’s magazine, The
Christian Pathway to Power, after Smith’s public disgrace as a result of
being caught in a woman’s bedroom teaching the erotic baptism. Hopkins continued to edit the magazine until
1913, renaming the magazine The Life of
Faith in 1883 (pgs. 73-74, Ibid). Even forty years later in 1913, Hopkins
testified at the Keswick Convention to the centrality of the teaching he had
received from Robert P. Smith in 1873 (cf. pgs. 24-25, 38-39, Transforming Keswick: The Keswick Convention, Past, Present, and
Future, Price & Randall).
of the Union Meeting for the Promotion of Scriptural Holiness, Held at Oxford,
August 29 to September 7, 1874. Chicago: Revell, 1874.
Many at Broadlands, it seems, had special-looking faces that, at least
in a culture strongly under the influence of Romanticism, validated the truth
of the Higher Life theology, and formed part of the indissoluble link between
Higher Life spirituality and the continuationistic Faith Cure—that is, the
Higher Life for the soul and for the body.
“So many faces quite changed their character in those days” of the 1874
Conference (pg. 128, Memorials [of William Francis Cowper-Temple, Baron Mount-Temple], Georgina Cowper-Temple). The transformation was comparable to the
miraculous “shining of [the] face . . . of Moses” (pg. 131, The Life that is Life Indeed: Reminiscenses of the Broadlands
Conventions, Edna V. Jackson. London:
James Nisbet & Co, 1910). At Broadlands “Hannah Smith was radiant,” (pgs.
132-134, Memorials), for “her face
gained a soft, Madonna-like beauty . . . her . . . sparking glance . . . [and]
pure face spoke for her. . . . She looked as if she knew the [spiritual]
secret. Fair and pure and glad, a piece
of nature fresh and racy, and simple, and full of vitality” (pgs. 49-50, 160,
222, The
Life that is Life Indeed).
(pgs. 132-134, Memorials & pg.
59, The Life that is Life Indeed). It was not in Hannah Smith alone that the
“inner light” shone in the “inspiration that came from her shining face” (pgs.
121-123, The Life that is Life Indeed). The
“face” of the universalist “George MacDonald . . . [was] very beautiful . . .
very like the pictures of our Lord” (pg. 57, The Life that is Life Indeed), such pictures apparently being good,
not sinful and idolatrous (cf. Exodus 20:4-6).
Indeed, “looks that were Christ’s . . . on human faces” were found at
Broadlands, where “a desire for the heavenly light . . . sh[one] on [many an]
uplifted face,” in line with truth learned from “Swedenborg” (pg. 82, Ibid).
Such glowing faces were similar to the faces of the cute baby-like
cherubs that allegedly helped God make Adam out of dust, as seen in a painting
of Michelangelo—“how their faces shine” as they usurp the uniquely Divine work
of creation! Like such mythic cherubs,
the perfectionist “Amanda Smith” possessed a “glowing face” as she petitioned
the moon and the stars to tell God that she was a sinner and ask Him to forgive
her (pgs. 73-74, 130, The Life that is
Life Indeed). The hell-rejecting
theological liberal F. D. Maurice was a paradigmatic example of the fact that
the “faces of some of God’s children
shine” (pg. 199, Ibid. Italics in original.). Ian Keith Falkoner had an “angel face.” Theodore Monod possessed such a “glowing
countenance” that one “felt” he was in the presence of a holy man, for “his
face was transfigured” and “holy fervor and deep reverence were expressed in
face and . . . revealed, in a way no words could do . . . the blessedness of
communion with God.” His face revealed
communion with God in the way that no words could do, not even the words of Scripture,
according to the Higher Life system taught at Broadlands. Canon Carter of Truro had a “sweet, pure face
with morning peace upon it.” The
“radiant . . . lovely face[s]” of the “queens of beauty of [their] time” were
present at Broadlands; indeed, “the whole company” went “streaming through the
garden with radiant faces” at the Conferences (pgs. 76, 85, 102, 130, 176, 221, Ibid).
at Broadlands, a “sacred illumination of face, too sacred to speak of . . .
[which] was noticed . . . and tenderly recorded . . . [a] blessed face . . .
placid and often illuminated with wonderful flickerings of light from beyond”
pgs. 132-134, Memorials). After all, at especially spiritual times “a
radiant, joyous, wondering glow often lights up the face of [those] who have
soared beyond the shadow of our night” (pg. 170, Ibid), even as “such brightness [had] appeared in [the] angelic
face” of the Catholic monk “St. Cuthbert” (pgs. 7-8, The Life that
is Life Indeed: Reminiscences of the
Broadlands Conventions). Thus, the
generality of the “goodly company” at Broadlands “were beautiful, and what an
attraction there always is in beauty! . . . [P]hysical beauty is . . . a source
of real bliss, and . . . it takes the impress of the spiritual . . . Beauty
always attracts us; we enjoy it, wish for it . . . beauty is truly an
expression of character” (pgs. 35-36, Ibid). Consequently, the shining faces at Broadlands
proved the truth of the Higher Life, since “[s]uch faces are truly . . .
windows, through which we see the soul” (pg. 46, Ibid). Such validation of Higher Life teaching by
shiny faces and other similarly utterly unauthoritative and extra-Scriptural
chimeras passed through Broadlands to the Keswick movement.
at Broadlands, as well as at the Oxford and other Higher Life gatherings; cf. pg.
20, The Keswick Story: The Authorized History of the Keswick
Convention, Polluck; pg. 20, Account
of the Union Meeting for the Promotion of Scriptural Holiness, Held at Oxford,
August 29 to September 7, 1874. Chicago: Revell, 1874.
Note the lists of names of those who met at Broadlands, where Evan
Hopkins, Webb-Peploe, and other early Keswick leaders are listed along with the
Pearsall Smiths, on pgs. 118, 148, of Memorials [of William Francis Cowper-Temple, Baron Mount-Temple], Georgina Cowper-Temple.
202, The Life that is Life Indeed: Reminiscences of the Broadlands Conferences,
Edna V. Jackson. London: James Nisbet & Co, 1910. Thus, Hopkins regularly was present and
preached often at at the Broadlands Conferences, as he was present and preached
at the Keswick Conventions.
Great Salvation, Barabas. Polluck
affirms that Hopkins, after skipping the first Keswick Convention, attended the
next forty-one, not thirty-nine as Barabas stated, without a break (pg. 39, The Keswick Story: The Authorized History of the Keswick
Convention, Polluck). Hopkins
learned the Higher Life doctrine “after listening to Robert Pearsall Smith on
the subject of Holiness,” and an address by Hopkins “was the means of winning
T. D. Harford-Battersby,” co-founder of the Keswick Convention with the Quaker
Robert Wilson, “over to the Higher Life movement” (pgs. 158-159, So Great Salvation; cf. pgs. 75ff., Evan Harry Hopkins: A Memoir, Alexander Smellie).
Law of Liberty in the Spiritual Life, Hopkins.
little less Scriptural; for example, his preaching at the Oxford Convention
that one must “begin” in the Higher Life by rejecting the active obedience of
Christ in redemption (pg. 93, Account
of the Union Meeting for the Promotion of Scriptural Holiness, Held at Oxford,
August 29 to September 7, 1874. Chicago: Revell, 1874), is, one hopes, simply loose
language.
Liberty in the Spiritual Life, Hopkins.
123, So Great Salvation, Barabas. While Barabas does not have a specific
section on sanctification as a process other than half of pg. 85, scattered
statements about process are occasionally found within his comparatively
massive discussions of sanctification as gift and as crisis.
Vol. 2, pgs. 579-583.
Salvation, Barabas.
Great Salvation, Barabas.
Great Salvation, Barabas.
Great Salvation, Barabas. The page
adds the qualifier “apart from Christ,” but its point in context is not simply
to assert the obvious fact that Christ is the Author of all spiritual strength,
life, and growth. Rather, it denies the
progressive inward renewal of the believer and the progressive death of the
principle of indwelling sin to affirm that nothing happens within the Christian
besides counteraction.
that progress in sanctification is merely an increased appropriation of Christ,
while the person himself remains unchanged—indeed, his quotation of Hopkins appears
to deny this view—but other Higher Life writers have done so. Warfield refutes this position while
discussing the doctrine of the German Lutheran Higher Life leader Theodore Jellinghaus
(who affirmed
typical Lutheran heresies, such as baptismal regeneration and opposition to
eternal security, among other very serious errors on the way of
salvation). Jellinghaus had learned of
the Higher Life from Robert Pearsall Smith and his associates. Keswick’s leading to the rise of German
Pentecostalism brought Jellinghaus to renounce the Higher Life as he saw its
fruits more clearly. Warfield records:
we received forgiveness of sins at once on our first believing, so do we
receive our full deliverance from the power of sin at once on this our second
believing. But, along with this, emphasis is thrown on the continuousness of
both the cause and the effect. Jesus saves us now—if I believe now; and
the believer is to live in a continuous believing and consequent continuous
salvation. This is, of course, the well known “moment by moment” doctrine of
the Higher Life teachers. The main purpose of this teaching is to prevent us
from supposing that the source of our holiness is in ourselves. But it has the
additional effect of denying with great emphasis that the seat of our
holiness—any of it, at any time—is in ourselves. It thus makes our holiness in
all its extent purely a holiness of acts, never of nature. What we obtain by
faith is Christ—as a Preserver from sinful acts. By continuous faith we obtain
Him continuously—as Preserver from sinful acts; and only from those particular
sinful acts with which we are for the moment threatened. We do not at any time
obtain Him as Savior from all possible sins, but only as Savior from the
particular sinful acts for protection from which we, from time to time, need
Him. Thus we are never made “holy” in any substantial sense, so that we are
ourselves holy beings. And also accordingly we are never made “holy” in any
conclusive sense, so that, being holy in ourselves, naturally we continue holy.
This is the way Jellinghaus expresses himself . . . [w]e are, says Jellinghaus,
like a poor relation living in a rich man’s house as a dependent, and receiving
all he needs day by day from his benefactor, but never being made rich himself.
constant dependence on Christ. But this is done so unskillfully as to end in
denying the possibility of our sanctification. We never are ourselves made
holy; only our acts are provided for. We ask nothing and we get nothing beyond
the meeting of our daily needs in sustaining our struggles on earth. As for ourselves,
we remain unholy, apparently forever. . . . There is a confusion here between
the source and the seat of [sanctification]. . . . [Jellinghaus writes,] “The
Christian can be pure only as a member of Christ our Head, as a branch of the
vine. In himself every Christian is a branch of sinful humanity and is prone to
sin. Only through implantation into Christ’s death and resurrection can he be
and remain holy. Separated from Christ and His purifying blood (blood signifies
the life of Christ given in death and resurrection), he is sinful and has sin.”
. . . If this be true then salvation is impossible. We are never saved. We only
seem to be saved, because Christ works through us the works of a saved soul.
That is not the way John conceived it, or Christ. Naturally most painful
results follow from such representations. For example, our aspirations are
lowered. We are never to wish or seek to be holy ourselves, but are to be
content with being enabled to meet in our unholiness the temptations of the
day. We lose the elevating power of a high ideal. And we are to be satisfied
with never being “well-pleasing to God.” . . . What the Scriptures teach is
that we shall be more and more transformed into Christ’s image until at last,
when we see Him as He is, we shall be like Him, and therefore in ourselves—as
He has made us—well-pleasing to God.
provision for a progressive sanctification, along the ordinary lines of the
teaching of the Higher Life Movement in this matter. We have seen Jellinghaus
in passages just quoted limiting the ability of the Christian to enter “immediately”
into the victorious power and peace-bringing leading of Christ, by such phrases
as “according to the measure of his knowledge,” and “for the needs of which he
is presently conscious.” The Christian is freed from all the sinning which at
the stage of Christian knowledge to which he has attained he knows to be
sinning; and as his knowledge grows so his objective sanctification increases.
It is apparently also repeatedly suggested that it depends entirely on the
Christian’s own action whether or not he retains his hold on Christ and so
continues in his sanctifying walk. Undoubtedly this is in accordance with
Jellinghaus’ fundamental conception of the relation of the Christian to Christ
and the way of salvation. He continually suggests that our standing in Christ
depends absolutely on ourselves. Those that believe in Christ, he tells us for
example, “have in Him forgiveness and righteousness, and also shall retain it so
long as they abide in Christ.” It is, he continues, like a king granting
public amnesty in terms like these: He who appears within a year at a
particular place, lays down his weapons, and swears fealty—to him then shall be
handed an already prepared diploma of pardon, and he will remain pardoned so
long as he maintains his loyalty. . . . Our continued justification depends therefore
absolutely on our continued faith, and the implication is that this is left
wholly in our hands. Justification cannot therefore be made to cover our future
sins—the sin, for example, of failing faith. . . . What
Jellinghaus is really laboring for here is to make room in some way for
“falling from grace.” He is possessed with the fear that if he does not limit
the scope of justification, at least with respect to the grosser future sins,
he will give license to sin, which in the end means merely that he has more
confidence in man’s efforts than in God’s grace. What he has succeeded in doing
is only to destroy all possibility of assurance of salvation. Men are cast back
on their own works, whether of faith or of conduct, for their hope of ultimate
salvation. God’s justification is valid only if they maintain their faith and
commit no sins of malice aforethought, or of conscious indifference, or
unlovingness. (pgs. 386-390, Warfield, Perfectionism
Vol. 1, Warfield, “The German Higher Life Movement in its Chief Exponent.”)
Keswick’s Passivity: in Keswick’s Errors–an Analysis and Critique of So Great Salvation by Stephen Barabas, part 15 of 17
when Keswick affirms, following the Pearsall Smiths and the Broadlands
Conference,[1]
that the believer’s sole responsibility in sanctification is to lie “quietly”
in the Potter’s hands, to “give up belief in . . . struggl[ing] or striv[ing]”[2] and
cease from “struggle and painful effort . . . earnest resolutions and
self-denial,”[3] it
teaches an unbiblical Quietism,[4]
exemplified in the Victorious Life motto, “Let go and let God.”[5] Barabas alleges that “Keswick is very careful
to point out that its doctrine of sanctification by faith is not Quietism,”
quoting “Bishop Handley Moule”[6]
to support this alleged opposition to Quietism by Keswick. However, Barabas either overlooks or
misrepresents[7]
the fact that Moule himself, who Barabas affirms was the greatest scholar ever
to adopt the Keswick theology,[8]
wrote that the believer’s part in the Keswick model of sanctification is “a blessed and wakeful Quietism,” so
that “Quietism . . . express[es] one side of [the] truth” in sanctification.[9] The explicit endorsement of a form of
Quietism by Keswick leaders was simply a continuation of the teaching of Lord
Mount Temple[10]
and Hannah W. Smith, reproduced at the Broadlands, Oxford, and Brighton
conferences, where “Quietism . . . was taught . . . in the sense of [the poem],
‘Sweet to lie passive in His hands/And know no will but His.’”[11] In sanctification, the believer is “simply to
. . . lie passive.”[12] Passivity is of the highest importance: “[I]n the disciple’s life, the . . .
first quality of a true instrument is passivity.
An active instrument would defeat its
own purpose . . . and then it not only becomes useless, but it works damage and
disaster. . . . [I]n the Word of God, we meet so frequently the symbols of
passive service.”[13]
Hannah and Robert Smith sought to bring others into a life of carefree
and quietistic happiness, since the Higher Life was “an easy life of rest and ease
. . . without effort,” indeed, “the only easy life.”[14] Unfortunately, when Moule and other Keswick
writers followed the Smiths and warned of “letting the self-life intrude itself
into the work of God,”[15]
they were not warning only of the danger of fallen, sinful volitions in man, or
of making one’s own self rather than the glory of God one’s goal. Rather, they were teaching the quietistic
doctrine that the human personality itself needed, in unbiblical ways, to be
passive, as Hannah W. Smith taught when she opposed the “self-life” in favor of
the Quietism of Quakerism and Roman Catholic mysticism, or when Lord
Mount-Temple and others exhorted at Broadlands, “Let us give up the self-life”
for the Higher Life flowing from the Divine Seed within.[16] Not sin—including the sin of selfishness—but
“self,” the active human personality, was the problem for Keswick. For Mrs. Smith and Keswick, the command of
Scripture to “reckon ye also yourselves to be
dead indeed unto sin” meant “[w]e must reckon ourselves to be dead to self,”[17]
for the active human personality itself was an evil to be set aside.
Thus, Bishop Moule, the man Keswick recognizes as its most scholarly
advocate, consciously and deliberately labeled the Keswick theology (which he
loved and defended) a form of Quietism, a fact supported by other Keswick
writers such as Andrew Murray and Jessie Penn-Lewis.[18] Contrary to the revisionist history set forth
by Barabas, the plain historical facts indicate that “the Quietists and other
Catholic mystics [were] widely accepted as part of the true holiness movement.”[19]
Thus, classic statements of the Keswick theology by its proponents affirm: “The Keswick message . . . [is] ‘quietism.’”[20] According to Keswick, by a cessation from
effort, the believer can pass from the state where the “Lord [is] unused” to one where he can “use the Lord”[21]
to become sanctified. The secret of
victory and sanctification by faith alone was that “we had nothing to do but
remain quiet, and the Lord would do everything for us.”[22] Keswick, following Hannah W. and Robert P.
Smith and the Broadlands Conferences,[23]
affirms that one is to “hand over the fleshly deeds of the body to the Spirit
for mortification . . . Romans 8:13 . . . [and] stand in faith[.] . . . It is
the Holy Spirit’s responsibility to do the rest. Sanctification is thus the
result, not of attempts at suppression of the flesh, but of faith in the
finished work of Calvary.”[24] In contrast to Keswick, the Bible says that
the believer is himself to actively “mortify the deeds of the body . . . through
the Spirit” (Romans 8:13; Colossians 3:5), not refuse to mortify them but hand
them over to the Spirit. Keswick teaches
that the Christian is not to try to suppress the flesh, but Scripture commands
him not merely to suppress his ethically sinful flesh, but to go far beyond
that, and put it to death. The Biblical relationship between
faith and effort in sanctification, which has already been explicated,[25]
is dramatically different from the Quietism inherent within the Keswick
theology. Scripture denies passivity and
Quietism in sanctification, and thus denies Keswick theology.[26]
Keswick Quietism on pg. 220ff. Account
of the Union Meeting for the Promotion of Scriptural Holiness, Held at Oxford,
August 29 to September 7, 1874. Chicago: Revell, 1874.
Hannah W. Smith preached at Broadlands:
“We have the Divine life; we must see to it that we let it live, that we
let no other life live” (pg. 182, The Life that is Life Indeed: Reminiscences of the Broadlands Conferences,
Edna V. Jackson. London: James Nisbet & Co, 1910). That is, our own human life must cease, and
we must allow the Divine Seed, the Christ-life, to live instead of us.
Great Salvation, Barabas.
Great Salvation, Barabas.
milder than many of the historical manifestations of Quietism, and thus, while
its Quietism hinders the believer’s sanctification, it is not as theologically
aberrant as, say, the Quietism of the medieval Romanist mysticism that
influenced it. Keswick happily, though
inconsistently, denies that sanctification involves “the destruction of the
Christian’s personality” (pg. 134, So
Great Salvation, Barabas) while still affirming that, rather than the
world, the flesh, and the devil, “the greatest danger . . .
the individual has to dread is the inordinate activity of the soul with its
powers of mind and will” (pg. 335, The
Spirit of Christ, Andrew Murray; also cited in chapter 8, Soul & Spirit, Jessie Penn-Lewis).
Charles Trumbull in his tract, “What is Your Kind of Christianity?” and
examined by B. B. Warfield in “The Victorious Life,” Chapter 5 of Perfectionism, Vol. 2 (see pg. 588). Compare, in Trumbull’s book Victory in Christ, the title to chapter
5: “Victory without Trying” (Elec. acc.
http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com).
Graham] Scroggie,” who “[i]n 1950 . . . was called ‘indisputably the foremost
living Keswick teacher’ . . . had opposed the idea of ‘Let go–and let God’ and
had said that victory came through ‘fighting and striving to make true in
experience what is true for us positionally.’”
Unfortunately, “Scroggie did not deny the possibility of contemporary
speaking in tongues,” and, “[s]peaking at one Keswick Convention on the subject
of the Apostles’ Creed, he argued that given the conflicts of the 1920s over
theological modernism (with fundamentalists calling for evangelicals to leave
the existing denominations), it was preferable to use the Apostles’ Creed as a
widely accepted basis of faith than for small groups to construct their own
bases of belief and split from the wider [universal] church” (“Scroggie,
William Graham,” Biographical Dictionary
of Evangelicals, pgs. 593-594).
Furthermore, “Scroggie . . . did accept that the gift of tongues might
still be available to Christians” (pg. 71, Transforming
Keswick: The Keswick Convention, Past,
Present, and Future, Price & Randall). While Scroggie sought to reform the dominant
Keswick Quietism, he maintained its unbiblical continuationism or anti-cessationism
and its ecumenicalism.
Great Salvation, Barabas. Packer, commenting on Barabas’s denial that
Keswick is quietistic, notes:
on the ground that intense activity in using the means of grace is necessary to
keep up one’s consecration and to maintain faith. But such activity, as is explicitly stated in
the passage from Bishop Moule which he quotes, is merely preparatory: “the temptation
of the hour will be met less by direct efforts of the will than by indirect”—i.
e., by handing the matter over to the Spirit and ceasing to act in it oneself.
This is the quietism of Keswick teaching. (pg. 161, “‘Keswick’ and the
Reformed Doctrine of Sanctification,” J. I. Packer. The Evangelical Quarterly, Vol. 27 (1955) 153-167).
from W. H. Griffith Thomas, who quoted Moule to respond to Warfield’s criticism
of Keswick Quietism on pgs. 278-279, “The Victorious Life (I.),” Bibliotheca Sacra 76:303 (July 1919), 267-288.
Griffith Thomas was Barabas’s predecessor in ignorance of or in failing
to state that, decades before Thomas wrote, Moule himself specifically
affirmed, in print, the Quietism of his beloved Keswick doctrine of sanctification. Perhaps, if ignorance of or bypassing of
inconvenient facts worked well enough for Griffith Thomas, it could work well
enough for Barabas also.
a great accession of strength . . . there is no doubt that Dr. Moule was [Keswick’s]
greatest . . . scholar” (pg. 175, So
Great Salvation, Barabas). Moule
adopted the Keswick theology through the influence of Evan Hopkins (pgs. 106,
148, Evan Harry Hopkins: A Memoir, Alexander Smellie). Nevertheless, even Bishop Moule did not write
any works for the world of scholarship, a fact put in the most favorable light
by his biographers:
powers often longed that he would give to the Church some great work, which
would appeal to the world of pure scholarship and advanced studies; but . . .
he deliberately consecrated all his powers to meet the needs of the general
body of Christian people . . . it is not surprising that Dr. Moule should have
felt that he could best serve his day and generation by using his all-too-scanty
leisure upon such writings as were in the line of his pulpit and platform
ministrations. (pg. 173, Handley Carr
Glyn Moule, Bishop of Durham: A
Biography, John B. Harford & Frederick C. Macdonald)
any exposition or defense of the Keswick theology for the world of scholarship,
just as nobody else has done, despite what will soon be a century and a half of
the worldwide promulgation of the Keswick theology. Perhaps such an exposition has never been
written because Keswick doctrine is unscholarly and cannot be defended at an
advanced level.
Creator: Thoughts on the Person and Work of the Holy Spirit of Promise, by
H. C. G. Moule. London: Hodder & Stoughton, 1890; cf. repr. ed.,
Grand Rapids, MI: Kregel, 1977.
g., pg. 124, Memorials [of William Francis
Cowper-Temple, Baron Mount-Temple], Georgina Cowper-Temple. London:
Printed for private circulation, 1890.
of Scriptural Holiness Held at Brighton, May 29th to June 7th,
1875. Brighton: W. J. Smith, 1875.
The pages affirm that “Quietism it may have been also in [another]
sense,” so that Quietism was the explicit teaching of the foundational meetings
that originated the Keswick theology in at least two senses. This Higher Life Quietism is explicitly tied
to that of the “most renowned of the quietists, Madame Guyon . . . one can only
wish that more went half as far as she did, in the passion for saving the
sinful” (pgs. 421-422), which she somehow was capable of doing, although she
believed a false gospel. The only
qualification stated to the commendation of Guyon’s Quietism is that she
“may”—it is only a possibility, not a certainty—have “gone somewhat further
than was right”—what is certain is that “one can only wish that more went half
as far as she did.”
of the Union Meeting for the Promotion of Scriptural Holiness, Held at Oxford,
August 29 to September 7, 1874. Chicago: Revell, 1874.
Cf. pg. 299.
68-69, Forward Movements of the Last Half
Century, Arthur T. Pierson. New
York, NY: London: Funk & Wagnalls,
1900. Italics in original. Pierson goes on to illustration the Higher
Life passivity by comparing his doctrine of the Christian’s role in
sanctification with impersonal, unthinking objects: the “machine . . . plane . . . knife . . .
axe . . . bow . . . rod . . . staff . . . saw . . . hammer . . . sword . . .
spear . . . threshing instrument . . . flail . . . vessel.” The idea that the believer is in willful,
deliberate cooperation with God by grace is definitively and deliberately
excluded, and solely impersonal symbols are employed. The Biblical metaphors that show a
Christian’s active willing and doing are all passed by—the Christian is not the
servant who obeys, the sheep that follows the Shepherd, the watchman who is
vigilant, the warrior who fights, or the athlete who wrestles, boxes, and
runs. He is only the “plane” or the
“machine” that runs when an electric current flows through it.
of Scriptural Holiness Held at Brighton, May 29th to June 7th,
1875. Brighton: W. J. Smith, 1875; also pgs. 276, 292, etc., Account of the Union Meeting for the Promotion of Scriptural Holiness,
Held at Oxford, August 29 to September 7, 1874.
Chicago: Revell, 1874.
Great Salvation, Barabas.
184-185, The Life that is Life
Indeed: Reminiscences of the Broadlands
Conferences, Edna V. Jackson. London:
James Nisbet & Co, 1910.
234, The God of All Comfort, Hannah
W. Smith. London: James Nisbet & Co, 1906; pgs. 231-232, Living in the Sunshine, Hannah W.
Smith. London: Fleming H. Revell, 1906. Hannah W. Smith’s transformation of Scripture’s
“dead to sin” into “dead to self” reappears in subsequent Keswick writers: “If I reckon myself to be indeed dead in
Christ, I am separated from self” (pg. 97, Holy
in Christ: Thoughts on the Calling of God’s Children to Be Holy as He Is Holy,
Andrew Murray. New York: Anson D. F.
Randolph & Company, 1887). “[Y]ou
reckon yourselves as alive from the dead, dead to self” (pg. 208, The Spiritual Life, Andrew Murray [Chicago:
Tupper & Robertson, 1896]; “It is an unfeigned delight to find that the
teaching of the Inner Life is becoming so widespread . . . the reckoning
oneself dead to self . . . and the Rest of Faith, Life across the Jordan in the
Land of Promise, these are familiar and deeply prized truths” (pg. 38, Forward Movements of the Last Half Century,
Arthur T. Pierson [New York; London: Funk & Wagnalls, 1900], quoting F. B.
Meyer in The Ram’s Horn.).
pgs. 65-73, The Full Blessing of
Pentecost, by Andrew Murray. New
York, NY: Revell, 1908) that, for the
Christian, “My life must be expelled; then the Spirit of Jesus will flow
in.” This teaching, Barabas concludes,
illustrates that “our own life must be utterly cast aside, to make full room
for the life of God.” For the influence
of the Romanist mystical Quietist Madame Guyon on Jessie Penn-Lewis, see the
section “Keswick Theology and Continuationism or Anti-Cessationism” below in
the chapter entitled “Evan Roberts and Jessie-Penn Lewis.”
of Pentecostal-Charismatic Origins, ed. Synan.
Keswick Convention: Its Message, Its Method, and its Men, ed. Charles
Harford. In another chapter explaining
“some characteristics of the message,” of Keswick, the book affirmed: “[P]eople might call it Quietism. Call it
what they would, it was very real and very beautiful to see” (pg. 99).
Salvation, Barabas. The plain
Biblical truth is that God uses the believer—the phraseology of the believer
using God is unscriptural and repulsive, and too much like the thought of the
later Word of Faith heresy.
Nevertheless, at least among certain (though, happily, not all)
prominent Keswick writers, following the theological trajectory of the Keswick
precursor Conventions, the believer deciding to “use the Lord” or “use Christ”
or “use God” to become sanctified was a regular part of the terminology of
sanctification. For example, W. H.
Griffith Thomas, trying to clear up what he alleged were misrepresentations of
the Keswick theology by B. B. Warfield, and trying to put the most orthodox and
moderate view he could on the Keswick doctrine, quoted as paradigmatic Moule’s
preaching at Keswick and stating four different times that “we can use . . .
Christ” for our sanctification, and another Keswick convention minister stating
that “Keswick . . . is the idea of Christ . . . used fully” (see pgs. 279, 287,
455, 456, 458, “The Victorious Life (I.),” & “The Victorious Life (II.), W.
H. Griffith Thomas, Bibliotheca Sacra
July & October 1919, 267-288 & 455-467). Later Keswick writers, such as Watchman Nee’s
successor Witness Lee, could speak of “qualified” people who “can properly use
the Holy Spirit” (pg. 137, Guidelines for
the Lord’s Table Meeting and the Pursuit of Life, Witness Lee. Anaheim, CA:
Living Stream Ministry, 2005). Warfield
incisively notes:
heresy could be more gross than that heresy which conceives the operations of
God the Holy Spirit under the forms of the action of an impersonal, natural
force. . . . [This] deals with God the Holy Spirit, the source of all grace, in
utter neglect of his personality, as if he were a natural force, operating, not
when and where and how he pleases, but uniformly and regularly wherever his
activities are released. . . . The conception is not essentially different from
that of storing electricity, say, in a Leyden jar, whence it can be drawn upon
for use. How dreadful the conception is may be intimated by simply speaking of
it with frankness under its true forms of expression: it is equivalent to
saying that saving grace, God the Holy Spirit, is kept on tap, and released at
[one’s] will to do the work required of it. . . . [Men] contain in them the
Holy Spirit as a salvation-working power which operates whenever and wherever
it, we can scarcely say he, is applied. . . . And this obviously involves, in
the third place, the subjection of the Holy Spirit in his gracious operations
to the control of men. . . . The initiative is placed in [men] . . . and the
Holy Spirit is placed at their disposal. He goes where they convey him; he
works when they release him for work; his operations wait on their permission;
and apart from their direction and control he can work no salvation. It ought
to be unnecessary to say that this is a degrading conception of the modes of
activity of the Holy Spirit. Its affinities are not with religion in any worthy
sense of that word, which implies personal relations with a personal God, but
with magic. At bottom, it conceives of the divine operations as at the disposal
of man, who uses God for his own ends; and utterly forgets that rather God must
be conceived as using man for his ends. (pgs. 82-84, The Plan of Salvation: Five Lectures, B. B. Warfield. Philadelphia, PA: Presbyterian Board of Publication, 1915)
of the Convention for the Promotion of Scriptural Holiness Held at Brighton,
May 29th to June 7th, 1875. Brighton: W. J. Smith,
1875.
temptations to Him to conquer” instead of resisting them in His strength
(Letter to her cousin Carrie, February 26, 1867, reproduced in the entry for
February 20 of The Christian’s Secret of
a Holy Life, Hannah W. Smith, ed. Dieter).
Robert P. Smith proclaimed, based on a misinterpretation of Galatians
2:20, that the believer’s part is not to actively mortify sin: “[O]ur work is simply to hand everything over
to Him. . . . Suffer Christ to live out His own glorious life in you hour by
hour . . . [you will be] more . . . free from effort each day” (pg. 220, Account of the Union Meeting for the Promotion
of Scriptural Holiness, Held at Oxford, August 29 to September 7, 1874.
Chicago: Revell, 1874).
Great Salvation, Barabas. Note the
false dichotomy Barabas makes between faith in the finished work of Christ and
active effort to mortify the flesh; in Biblical sanctification the two are the
most intimate friends, not the irreconcilable opposites Barabas makes them.
Colossians 2:6-7 Teach Sanctification by Faith Alone?” above.
inaction—in this case, inner inaction. A
call to passivity—conscientious, consecrated passivity—has sometimes been read
into certain biblical texts, but it cannot be read out of any of them. Thus, for instance, to “yield” or “present”
oneself to God (Romans 6:13; 12:1), or as it is sometimes put, to “surrender”
or “give ourselves up” to him, is not passivity. Paul’s meaning is not that having handed
ourselves over to our Master, we should then lapse into inaction, waiting for
Christ to move us instead of moving ourselves, but rather that we should report
for duty, saying as Paul himself said on the Damascus road, “What shall I do,
Lord? . . .” (Acts 22:10) and setting no limits to what Christ by his Spirit
through his Word may direct us to do.
This is activity! Again, being
“led by the Spirit of God” (Romans 8:14; Galatians 5:18) is not passivity. Paul’s meaning is not that we should do
nothing till celestial promptings pop into our minds, but that we should
resolutely labor by prayer and effort to obey the law of Christ and mortify sin
(see Galatians 5:13-6:19; and Romans 8:5-13, to which v. 14 looks back). This too is activity!
further. The point is plain. Passivity, which quietists think liberates
the Spirit, actually resists and quenches him.
Souls that cultivate passivity do not thrive, but waste away. The Christian’s motto should not be “Let go
and let God” but “Trust God and get going!” . . . [P]assivity [is] . . .
unbiblical . . . and hostile to Christian maturity. (pg. 128, Keep In Step With The Spirit, J. I.
Packer)
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