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Is the Post-Birth Abortion Claim a Lie?

July 1, 2024 / 8 Comments on Is the Post-Birth Abortion Claim a Lie?

Presidential Debate Point

One talking point after the debate between President Biden and President Trump was Trump lied every time he spoke. Almost every Biden surrogate used this talking point and I believe it got some leverage afterwards, despite the historically bad performance by President Biden. The most referred “lie” by the pundits after the debate was Trump’s claim that Democrats even supported abortion after birth. Again and again they talked about that as a lie.

The Democrat support of also murdering babies born alive after botched abortions is a true and real thing. It would be worth reading former federal prosecutor Andy McCarthy’s piece in 2008 at the National Review. You should read the whole article. McCarthy produced this following quote (a transcript) from then state Senator Obama, who voted against a bill to save those babies (italics provided by author in same way as original article):

Illinois State Senator Obama

SENATOR OBAMA: Let me just go to the bill, very quickly. Essentially, I think as — as this emerged during debate and during committee, the only plausible rationale, to my mind, for this legislation would be if you had a suspicion that a doctor, the attending physician, who has made an assessment that this is a nonviable fetus and that, let’s say for the purpose of the mother’s health, is being — that — that — labor is being induced, that that physician

(a) is going to make the wrong assessment and (b) if the physician discovered, after the labor had been induced, that, in fact, he made an error, or she made an error, and, in fact, that this was not a nonviable fetus but, in fact, a live child, that that physician, of his own accord or her own accord, would not try to exercise the sort of medical measures and practices that would be involved in saving that child.

Obama Continued

State Senator Obama continued:

Now, it — if you think there are possibilities that doctors would not do that, then maybe this bill makes sense, but I — I suspect and my impression is, is that the Medical Society suspects as well that doctors feel that they would be under that obligation, that they would already be making these determinations and that, essentially, adding a — an additional doctor who then has to be called in an emergency situation to come in and make these assessments is really designed simply to burden the original decision of the woman and the physician to induce labor and perform an abortion.

Now, if that’s the case — and — and I know that some of us feel very strongly one way or another on that issue — that’s fine, but I think it’s important to understand that this issue ultimately is about abortion and not live births. Because if these are children who are being born alive, I, at least, have confidence that a doctor who is in that room is going to make sure that they’re looked after.

Never Rescinded

Democrats or Obama have not rescinded those remarks. They have spun them to cover, but this is what they think. They believe this. If a baby survives the abortion, Democrats favor allowing the doctor legal cover for following through with an abortion. It’s true. That’s no longer an abortion per se, and someone might argue that, but that’s not really an argument. They are finishing after birth what they unsuccessfully tried before the baby exited the mother’s birth canal.

I understand the confusion. If you allow for murder before the baby exits, but you fail at that murder and the baby survives, what difference does it make if you murder the baby after he’s on the operating table? Everyone knows it’s a murder either way.

Boxer in the House of Representatives

Barbara Boxer, the former congresswoman from California, famously said in a debate on the floor of the House with Rick Santorum that the life of a child begins when they take the baby home from the hospital. George Will wrote about this in a column at Newsweek:

In the 1999 colloquy, Sen. Rick Santorum (R-Pa.) said: Suppose during this procedure the baby slips entirely from the mother’s birth canal. “You agree, once a child is born, is separated from the mother, that that child is protected by the Constitution and cannot be killed? Do you agree with that?” Boxer: “I think when you bring your baby home, when your baby is born … the baby belongs to your family and has all the rights.”

Santorum persisted: “Obviously, you don’t mean they have to take the baby out of the hospital for it to be protected by the Constitution. Once the baby is separated from the mother, you would agree—completely separated from the mother—you would agree that the baby is entitled to constitutional protection?” She would not say “yes.” Instead, she said, understandably: “I don’t want to engage in this.”

When Trump talks about post-birth abortion, he talks about the stream of thought and evidence above and more. The hired fact checkers of the Democrat Party don’t like what it does to their abortion argument, but he is right to take the abortion argument that direction. It is an instinctive and successful negotiating tactic of President Trump. If it were a lie, he’d have no evidence for his point. Yet, he and other Republicans do.

Jill Stanek

Democrats say infanticide is illegal in every state. It is a matter of defining terms. In the testimony for the “Born Alive Bill” in Illinois, a practicing nurse, Jill Stanek, said that babies born alive after a botched abortion live 10% to 20% of the time. The Wikipedia article on this episode reads:

Stanek generated national news during the 2008 Presidential campaign when publicizing Barack Obama’s four votes against Illinois’ Born Alive Infants Protection Act while state senator, as well as his state senate floor testimony. She posted a vote tally on her blog showing that, during a March 12, 2003, meeting of the Illinois State Senate’s Health and Human Services Committee, Committee Chairman Barack Obama prevented the passage of an amendment to Bill 1082 that would have conveyed “the rights of personhood upon any fetus expelled or extracted from the womb if that fetus was capable of breathing or voluntary motion.”

How Democrats Support Infanticide

Democrats might oppose infanticide (that particular word), but do they support the prosecution of doctors who kill living babies outside the mother’s womb, the ones who survive the abortion? They won’t answer that question. Trump is right to go on the offensive on this point the way he does. The Democrat position explains how Boxer could have said what she did in her interchange with Santorum in the House of Representatives. These three pieces of evidence, Obama as an Illinois state senator, Boxer in the House, and Jill Stanek as an eyewitness, indicate that Democrats do support post birth abortion. I would contend those are examples to which Trump referred in the debate.

It hurts Democrats on the abortion issue to reveal such an extreme as post-birth abortion. However, they have never nullified these examples given. They don’t disassociate themselves from Obama and Boxer, who took these positions. It is not a large distance between murder in the womb and murder outside of it.

Ranking the Worst Things Happening In a Given Year

December 29, 2021 / 3 Comments on Ranking the Worst Things Happening In a Given Year

Someone said that they don’t like 2022 because it’s 2020 two times. Get it. Twenty-twenty two. Twenty-twenty two-times. They were being funny.

I remember when we got the call that said we had to cancel school and in a real hurry in March 2020. We went to zoom classes. Putting an entire school on zoom in a week was huge.

I know people and churches that had really bad things happen for them in 2021. I’m not going to name them, but you know or know of people who died in 2021, maybe a loved one. We wish they were here still. They’re not. I know several from just this year, two I was very close to. I know emergency room nurses who’ve had a very difficult time.

This is the end of 2021 and men and groups rank events, books, politics, music, movies, and people. Did last year’s predictions come true? What will happen in 2022? People rank the best. They rank the worst. Now that we have the internet, it’s a good way for someone to get traffic, especially if they post a separate page for every number in their list.

I want us to consider how we make a list of the worst things that happen in a given year. How does a Christian determine that? What is actually really bad? What hurts the most? Who or what causes the most damage? The media evaluates events for us. They look at an event as the end of the world, the next year it happens again, and they don’t mention it, because they don’t want to shame the one who did it.

When we read the Bible, God doesn’t mention national freedom as an important issue. It’s important in the United States Constitution, but not scripture. If something causes you to violate God’s Word, God addresses it. Daniel had a mandated diet in Babylon. Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego had mandated worship of an idol. Then Daniel had mandated that he could not pray. Daniel ate. The three Hebrews did not bow. Daniel prayed. The mandates were less the concern as much as what saints did with each mandate.

Jewish leaders mandated Peter and John, don’t preach. They answered, we cannot but speak the things which we have seen and heard. We obey God rather than men. The worst thing to happen wasn’t mandating not preaching. It was preachers not standing when told not to preach. That didn’t happen in that case.

Not obeying what God said, that’s one of the worst things happening in a given year. Is there anything worse? I think there is. Changing what God said and eliminating it as something He even said; that’s worse. Perverting biblical doctrine and practice so that people are hearing sometimes the opposite of what God said, that’s worse than not doing what God said. They are similar, but if the doctrine and practice of God’s Word is still safeguarded for future belief and practice, that’s more fundamental in importance.

Twitter feeds and social media said in 2021 the worst thing was either the vaccination or those not getting the vaccination, and then masked or unmasked. The country was split right down the middle on this issue. Perhaps worse than that was that the vaccination or the mask was such a big issue. While people are mocking government policy on Covid-19, something far worse could be happening. Or is that the worst? Maybe you could argue for that.

When we decide the worst things happening, we could compare events. January 6 at the U.S. capital or the murders in Chicago? January 6 at the U.S. capital or the protests in the previous summer? Abortions or children who live and hear a false gospel, damning their souls forever?

Here’s my attempt at a list of the worst things that happened in 2021.

5. A significant percentage of young people left biblical churches.

Studies show a significant increase in people in their twenties leaving church. This is close to seventy percentile. I don’t like the fads and philosophies I see embraced by young people, but giving up is the worst. That influences all the other decisions they make.

I watched a chapel service for Bob Jones University and the speaker said to the congregated group of young people that the crowd would split right down the middle between liberals and conservatives.

4. Self-centered, materialistic, and superficial living increased in magnitude among all church members.

For years church leaders try to keep their people with social activities and fun. Church growth means adding more people, not true conversion and disciples. In the minds of the church members, this is fellowship. More than ever, professing Christians cannot endure sound doctrine. Lives are filled up with temporal things. Biblical doctrines conform to a casual, comfortable lifestyle. Normal biblical doctrine, practice, and standards are now too offensive.

The worship of churches is very often entertainment, and the people can’t tell the difference. The people are more worldly than ever and you can’t distinguish between the church and the world. What the world was not long ago, the churches are today.

3. The number of churches preaching a confused, watered down, or false gospel increases.

Churches either remove repentance from their doctrinal statements and plans of salvation or they redefine it so that it isn’t repentance anymore. This affects also what these churches teach on sanctification, because believers aren’t expected to live according to the Bible. More than ever when you ask a professing Christian what the gospel is, he or she cannot tell you.

If someone does something akin to “pray this prayer with me” and gets a salvation statistic, that does not result in someone saved. It results in someone more fooled than he or she even was before.

2. The number of churches active in preaching the gospel reaches an all time low.

If a tree falls and no one hears it, did it make a noise? If a church has the gospel, and no one preaches it, does it have the gospel?

People are so distracted with their phones, social media, politics, and what’s happening through the media, that less gospel preaching occurs. More than ever, people are so filled with doubt and then lacking in confidence, that they don’t have the assurance to be bold. The less gospel preaching, the less salvation and more are lost. Increase in eternal death is worse than increase in physical death. Average life expectancy dropped in 2020 more than any time since World War 2. Less gospel preaching results in less eternal life expectancy.

1. True worship of God decreased.

True worship gives God what He wants. What people want clashes with what God wants. God created the world for His pleasure. True individual worship decreased. True corporate worship decreased. Just like the worship of God decreased in apostatizing Israel, it is across the world. Rather than giving God what He wants to hear, God received what people wanted more than ever in 2021.

The natural consequence of not preaching the gospel or preaching a false and watered down one is that true worship also decreases. It results in greater apostasy, turning from the true God, and God receives less worship.

Honorable Mention. Honorable mention for 2021? Abortions have dropped since their high in the 1980s, 2017 the lowest since Roe v. Wade was passed. Still, however, the murder of thousands of innocent babies is the worst physical event every year. It just can’t compete with spiritual and eternal events, as worse than them.

Also honorable mention, increased role confusion. Role confusion increased significantly in the world, more effeminate men and more masculine women. This affected the abortion rate. The lack of reproduction that comes from man and woman relationships results in less abortion. There are less babies to abort. God designed the family to pass along the truth to the next generation. When families break up, this results in less truth, less worship, less preservation of what God wants in the world. Role confusion breaks up the family as much as any one cause.

Those are the worst of 2021. Natural disasters, pandemics, and political issues can’t compare with the spiritual and eternal ones.

Questioning Christianity Because Of What One Sees Occurring In the World or From People Who Call Themselves Christians

February 10, 2021 / Leave a comment

My Christianity isn’t tethered to what other people are doing or have done. Christianity is the truth. If I were one of eight remaining believers on earth, it would still be true. I don’t doubt it when people don’t live it. I feel sorry for them, but they haven’t affected what I think about Christianity itself. My Christianity is tethered to the Bible, God’s Word.

I’m writing about this, because of an article in Newsweek that came out on Tuesday this week, written by Issac Bailey, “I’m Struggling with My Christianity After Trump.” Something with that title in a major publication would be a head scratcher, except that most “Christianity” today and probably for most of history isn’t and hasn’t been actual Christianity. No one should be surprised about counterfeit Christianity. Bailey says he got his doubts about Christianity itself from the reality that professing Christians voted for Trump. I’ve heard other people say this.

According to scripture, anyone who leaves actual Christianity was never saved in the first place. Nowhere says a true Christian can lose his salvation. He can’t leave it, because he’s kept by the power of God (1 Peter 1:5). A believer cooperates with what God does in saving him, but it is God who keeps him saved. Scripture is clear on this. Many passages teach the eternal security of a believer, but two verses are definitive on the point that, if a professing believer defects, he was never saved in the first place: first, 1 John 2:19.

They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.

Second, 1 John 3:6.

Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.

Read both verses. The first one says that when someone does not continue, he never had salvation in the first place, that is, he was “not of us,” said twice in the verse. If he was “of us,” he would “no doubt have continued with us.” No doubt. The second verse says that a person who sins as a lifestyle, as seen in the present tense, “sinneth,” “hath not seen him, neither known him,” that is, a person who takes on a lifestyle of sin never saw or knew Christ in the first place. A true Christian can’t walk away from Christ. As Jesus said in John 10:28-29, no man, including himself, can pluck a true believer out of either Jesus’ or His Father’s hand.

If you read the Bailey article, you can see he doesn’t have biblical Christianity. I’m not saying that to be unnecessarily offensive or condemnatory. People call themselves Christians, who are not, because there are many various forms of popular “Christianity” in the world. That could be a whole separate article, all the different types, that aren’t Christianity. They are fraudulent perversions of the real thing. There is more false Christianity by far than there is true Christianity.

Most Christian denominations don’t even preach a true gospel. You should know that. They are preaching a false gospel. Most professing Christians to whom I talk don’t even know the gospel. I repeat, they don’t know it. Churches are not clear on the gospel. Even the ones who might believe a true gospel are more concerned about having a bigger congregation and so they do more to pander to people than tell them what they need to hear. There has been a cumulative and comprehensive erosion of the gospel in the United States for awhile and for a number of reasons.

In the first paragraph, Bailey says his “faith is in tatters.” Before I provide an assessment of what he says in his article, I have an opinion about what he’s doing. I don’t think he’s going to leave his spurious version of Christianity. He’s threatening to leave it like a child threatens to hold his breath until he dies if his parents don’t give him what he wants. True Christians are concerned that their testimony could result in defections from the faith. Jesus said at the beginning of Matthew 18 that it would be better to put a millstone around your neck and jump into deep water than to cause one of these little ones to stumble.

Bailey is saying that Christians are sending him into apostasy because of their vote for Trump. This is meant to strike fear into Christians, so that they at the least become non-political or disengaged from political action. Bailey will keep supporting actual murderers greater than any holocaust in the history of the world, the same people who booed God at their party convention, but a vote for Trump will send him off the deep end. He’s already off the deep end. His party is the party against divine design of the family, which is the most rudimentary and rebellious form of opposition to God in existence.

The people Bailey addresses specifically are the pro-life supporting Christians, implying that there are non-pro-life Christians. You can be a Christian, a true one, and not be pro-life. There is only pro-life Christianity. Everything else is an impostor. Sure, it might take a new Christian some time to get up to speed on this point, but he will get there, because he is indwelt by God the Holy Spirit, if he is really saved.

Many of the Trump voters, who claim to be Christians, are not. They do have a different Jesus. That includes some, if not all, of the people in the picture posted in Bailey’s article. As a matter of religious or theological comparison though, these pseudo Christians have a lot in common with the type of Christianity Bailey represents. They both have a novel fabrication or improvisation of Christianity, that is very loose with scripture. They put more authority in their own experience than the Bible, relying more on allegorization than exegesis.

For all of Trump’s many flaws, in a political way he represented to a lot of Americans and most true Christians, a last opportunity to save the federal government from a trajectory of progressive, oligarchical totalitarianism and globalism. Of course, that’s just a conspiracy theory, wink wink. There is no new world order planned for the future of the United States with no borders and the eradication of Americanism. Christians would like to keep their freedoms, freedom of religion and of speech. They would like to stop the present course of the elimination the nuclear family, something basic like a father and mother of opposite sex with the authority to raise their own children. The support of vouchers for education is about the freedom to educate their children in Christian values away from the humanistic, pseudo-science of gender fluidity.

It is not accident that today you hear the left use words like “cult” and “worship” as it relates to Trump. I’m sure they’re seen as effective propaganda. No Christian wants to be seen or known for being in a cult or worshiping a man. Bailey among many others uses this terminology. I don’t know anyone who follows Trump, let alone worships him. I understood why Christians would attend the rally on January 6. I know some people who were there and none of them knew anything about breaking into the capitol building to stop the counting of the electoral votes. I’ve explained this in previous posts, but they see both their voice and their vote being taken away. It’s obvious to them that a two tiered justice system already exists, where a true Christian can be prosecuted for not baking a cake for a same sex wedding and yet left wing anarchists can take over a large area of an American city without opposition. The mainstream of the media applauds it, likes it, has no problem with a Trump voter bleeding in the street.

Much of what Bailey wrote just isn’t true and other parts are misrepresentations, slanted in a dishonest way. He might just be deceived, but I believe he knows what he’s doing.

True Christians don’t pray to Jesus. They pray to God the Father like Jesus taught.
The group filmed “praying” in the front of the Senate chamber, it’s obvious, don’t represent biblical Christianity.

True Christianity isn’t white or black, as in “white church” or “black church,” as Bailey represents it.
All the things that Franklin Graham said about Trump are true. Graham doesn’t represent biblical Christianity, but I understand why a Christian would appreciate the list of accomplishments he mentions.

Bailey argues that Trump was not pro-life, because Trump oversaw a 200% increase in civilian deaths in Syria and Iraq in his first year. That is a very specific statistic that does not relate to the issue of being “pro-life” as defined. Pro-life means that you’re against murdering unborn children. How many civilians would die if ISIS continued on unfettered? That’s more difficult to measure, but that is why a very narrow, cherry-picked statistic was necessary for an opening statement. Trump oversaw a quick dismantling of ISIS his first year and then evacuation so that less future death would occur. Consider the following statistical chart of civilian deaths in the Iraq War between 2003 and 2021:

Statistic: Number of documented civilian deaths in the Iraq war from 2003 to January 2021 | Statista

Look at the Trump years, 2017-2020, compared to the previous ones. This belies what Bailey writes, his assuming, it seems, that no one would fact check him, if it even mattered. Despite Bailey’s twisting of the meaning of pro-life, nevertheless, more civilians were killed in Iraq in 2014 during the Obama presidency than during the entire four years of the Trump presidency.

Bailey blames Trump for the murders at the Tree of Life Synagogue in Pittsburgh. No president has been more pro-Israel than Trump. Israel says this. There were fourteen mass shootings during the Obama years. It’s sheer political opportunism to blame mass shootings on a president. Was Trump also to blame for the 2017 Las Vegas shooting at a country western concert? Those were mainly Trump deplorables getting gunned down.
Another argument Bailey makes is that abortion rates go down during Democratic presidencies, because of government programs. It wouldn’t surprise me if there were higher unintended pregnancies when Democrats are president, because of greater support for contraception, most of which is abortifacient. Those aren’t called murders, but they are. Since 1965 over 11 million have been murdered by abortifacients, that don’t show up as abortions. That would be a good explanation for lower abortion rates too.

Pro-life people, of course, want to end all abortion, so the rate would decrease to nothing if they had their way. Instead, with the support of Bailey, almost 70 million have been murdered in the United States, which would be enough to cause a Christian to defect, except that’s impossible for a true Christian. True Christians are happy about slowing down the abortion rate. They don’t, however, support contraception as a way of getting there. A true Christian opposes fornication and all sexual sin that results in an unintended pregnancy. For a biblical Christian, an unintended pregnancy is by definition one outside of marriage. If Bailey is a Christian, he should support the biblical position, which is abstinence. That would also end the AIDS epidemic.

Insurrection occurred all summer with BLM and Antifa, doing far more damage and causing far more death than the capitol “riot.” Is that justified to Bailey, because he agrees with socialism and actual fascism? When you see the picture of unarmed crazies in costumes, a truly thinking person doesn’t see the comparison. One of the five “killed,” used as a statistic by the left, was an unarmed woman, who threatened no one with violence. Where is the outcry? Three Trump supporters died of natural causes. The one police death has hardly been covered. What happened there? Why isn’t there more coverage of his death? Not his funeral, not the way he’s been used politically, but what actually happened to him?

Bailey says that 60% of white Catholic voters voted for Trump, implying that Catholics are Christian. He lumps them with evangelicals who supported Trump. This is the most tell-tale evidence that he doesn’t understand biblical Christianity. He is pro-abortion. He is against the death penalty for murder. If you are a Christian, you support what God supports. You believe the Bible. Bailey does not.

The crucial aspect for a lasting faith, which is actually a saving faith, is the object of that faith. My faith doesn’t stand in men. The object of faith is Jesus Christ Himself, and He never fails. I believe the Bible. My faith comes by the Word of God. 1 John 5:4-5 say:

4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith. 5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?

One reason true Christians won’t be swayed by what occurs in this world is because they aren’t living for this world. They are living for the next world, the kingdom of Jesus Christ and the eternal state. This reminds me of the hymn, My Faith Has Found a Resting Place, by E. E. Hewitt:

My faith has found a resting place,

Not in device nor creed;

I trust the Ever-living One,

His wounds for me shall plead.

I need no other argument,

I need no other plea;

It is enough that Jesus died,

And that He died for me.

Enough for me that Jesus saves,

This ends my fear and doubt;

A sinful soul I come to Him,

He’ll never cast me out.

My heart is leaning on the Word,

The written Word of God,

Salvation by my Savior’s name,

Salvation through His blood.

My great Physician heals the sick,

The lost He came to save;

For me His precious blood He shed,

For me His life He gave.

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