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The Church Fathers Are NotThe Church Fathers (Part Two)

Part One

Proper Evaluation of History

God promised the preservation of scripture, but not the preservation of history.  Since God promised the preservation of scripture, He insures that with a high level of divine intervention.  The Bible says much about this.  Since God doesn’t promise to preserve history, we must judge history in a different way.  We must weigh it.

The history of the people and events of history differs in nature than the history of Christian doctrine.  Believers can open the Bible, which God preserved, and compare the history of Christian doctrine with what the Bible says.  Especially the doctrine found in what people call “the church fathers” diverges from biblical doctrine and practice.  Biblical doctrine and practice and the church fathers have many dissimilarities.

An important part of good historical evaluation is observing historical influences on beliefs, practices, and methods.  The Bible itself helps with this ability in a sufficient way.  Already in the first century, external factors affected what the church believed.  This is all over the New Testament.  Keeping false doctrine out of the church required and requires tremendous vigilance.

The Trajectory of External Influences on the Church

New Testament Times

If one just looked at an epistle like 1 Corinthians, chapter after chapter chronicle both external and internal influences on the church at Corinth.  People over emphasized the effect of baptism in chapter one.  They also devalued preaching as a method for what Paul calls “signs” and “wisdom.”  In chapter two, people were placing higher value on naturalism over supernaturalism.  Greek philosophy that denigrated the place of the physical body led to acceptance of sexual sin in chapters five and six.  The same kind of false teaching on the body led to mass denial of bodily resurrection in chapter fifteen.

One could keep moving through the entire New Testament and do something very similar to the samples of the previous paragraph.  God wants us to see how false doctrine and practice enters the church and then takes hold.  Revelation two and three chronicle seven churches and varied degrees of departure from the truth, even to the extent that the Laodicean church in Revelation three had already apostatized.  Jesus and John tell history as a warning with the seven churches about both the internal and external attacks.

The Roman Empire and Greek Philosophy

The persecution of the Roman Empire affected churches in the first century.  This parallels with anything and any place where persecution occurs.  People accommodate the pressure and change from biblical belief and practice.  The pressure of Sodom affected Lot and his family.  The world itself corrupted Demas (2 Timothy 4:10).

Many other external factors changed and change thinking.  This is why Paul warns against philosophies and traditions of men (Colossians 2:8).  Theologians like Origen invented their own subjective approach to interpretation of scripture.  Many others accepted then Origen’s way.  Some read so much Greek philosophy, available during the period of the church fathers, that they took on the thinking of the Greek philosophers.  Include Augustine among those.  Greek philosophy doesn’t mix with the Bible and improve it.  It corrupts it.

When Paul says “wisdom” in 1 Corinthians 1-2, he, like James in James 3:15, meant human wisdom, which could be intellectualism, naturalism, rationalism, or human reasoning.  The false teachers that Peter battled as seen in his second epistle judged according to their own reasoning, attempting to conform their theology to that.

Syncretism

An important term to understand is “syncretism.”  Wikipedia gets it right when it says in its entry on syncretism:

Syncretism is the practice of combining different beliefs and various schools of thought. Syncretism involves the merging or assimilation of several originally discrete traditions, especially in the theology and mythology of religion, thus asserting an underlying unity and allowing for an inclusive approach to other faiths.

People mix two different philosophies, ideas, concepts, or beliefs and out of the two becomes something brand new, a hybrid, which contrasts with the ones from which it came.  The false worship of Israel arose from syncretism, mixing Israel’s divine, scriptural worship with pagan or idolatrous worship practices.

Comparison with the True Church

The church doctrine and practice of the church fathers does not look like the church in the New Testament.  The church fathers represent a path that diverts from the true path of the New Testament churches.  As I wrote in part one, almost entirely they read as proto-Roman Catholic.  Roman Catholicism came from somewhere and this is easy to see.  It’s no wonder that for centuries Roman Catholicism did not want people to read the Bible on their own.  When they read it, they would see the differences.

It is easy to see in history what happened when people were reading the Bible and comparing it with Roman Catholicism.  People left Roman Catholicism.  They knew that wasn’t the truth.  Based on reading scripture, they separated from Roman Catholicism.  As well, true churches never joined that path in the first place.  True churches always existed and people joined with them who left Roman Catholicism based on reading or hearing scripture.  They also needed courage because Roman Catholicism through the years would kill them for disagreeing.

Roman Catholicism and the Church Fathers

Roman Catholicism preserved the church fathers.  They served Roman Catholic mission and goals.  Roman Catholicism uses the church fathers as their evidence of a historical trail.  Roman Catholic apologists point to the church fathers as evidence of the authority of the Roman Catholic Church.

The authority and military of the Roman Empire served Roman Catholicism.  The denomination itself took on qualities of an Empire and enforced the doctrine and practice.  Ultimately, it would not allow for challenge.  This produced an inauthentic history of a church.  It never was the church.   The Roman Catholic Church always was a pseudo-church, posing as one.  It keeps people fooled and strapped into false religion.  The church fathers offer a major contribution to the deceit and destruction.

Today evangelicals embrace the church fathers. They point to them as a part of their own history.  This supposes that God used Roman Catholicism to keep the truth.  It isn’t true and it doesn’t even make sense.  This doesn’t just provide a cover for the error.  It sends people down the wrong path.

The Example of Baptismal Regeneration

A good example of the deceit and danger of the church fathers relates to the teaching of baptismal regeneration.  The church fathers taught baptismal regeneration.  The Bible doesn’t teach that.  It teaches against it.  Roman Catholicism among other kinds of deeds and rituals requires baptism as a condition for salvation.  Protestants did not make a full turn from Roman Catholic doctrine with their acceptance of infant sprinkling.  This dovetailed with the Roman Catholic view that the church was the worldwide kingdom of God on earth.

In Matthew 16, Jesus told Peter that He was building His church on the gospel.  His church has a true gospel.  The church fathers undermined the gospel and the church that arose from that teaching was a false one.  It was Roman Catholicism and its state church.

More to Come

Do We Need Evidence Outside of the Bible or Do Biblical Presuppositions Count as Evidence?

This post relates to the Ross-White Debate and the Related Subject of Landmarkism

In numerous ways God established the truth and authority of His Word.  Believers rely on scripture for their faith and practice.  They trust the Word of God as evidence.  God said it, so it is true.

Scripture talks about Noah, so there is a Noah, Abraham, so there is an Abraham, and Moses, so there is a Moses.  You don’t have to find something outside of the Bible about these figures to believe what God says about them in the Bible.  It is self-evident.  Whatever scripture says is true.

The Bible teaches justification by faith.  Does evidence show that God imputes the righteousness of Christ to us, forgives all our sins, or justifies us by faith?  I can’t point to the truth of this outside of the Bible.  I believe it because God’s Word says it.

Was there a tree of life?  Yes.  Did the sun stand still in Joshua?  Yes.  Was there a Samson?  Yes.  How can we answer “yes” to any of these questions without something outside of the Bible?

Authentication of Scripture

Authentication of scripture exists outside the Bible.  Men investigate the people and events recorded in it, outside of it.  Nothing men find contradicts what it says.  They can’t confirm everything, but for what they can find confirmation of the Bible outside of the Bible, it confirms it.

The Bible makes thousands of predictions.  These are most often layered predictions with many different details to the prophecies.  For the prophecies to come true, much happens that involves many different people and places.  Fulfillment of every prophecy occurred.

Extra-scriptural written materials validate people and events in scripture.  Archaeology confirms people and events in the Bible.  When comparing one part of the Bible with another, one part or more confirms another part.  Different sections confirm each other with their agreement.  Fulfilled prophecies authenticate the truth and authority of what scripture says.

Copying Scripture

Scripture so impressed its readers and adherents that they copied it more than any other document.  More hand copies exist than any other document in all of history, and by far.  Hand copies of the Bible far exceed any other book.  Many, many throughout history accepted it as true.

We can look at this world and know that it didn’t occur by accident.  What we witness in nature requires more than naturalistic explanation.  The supernatural explanation of the Bible matches what we see in the world.  The comparison of passages within the Bible attest to their explanation of the origins of the world, people, nations, nature, civilization, events, and  language.  It provides a cohesive view of the world in which we live.

The Bible is its own evidence.  By itself, it is a standard.  The writings themselves ring with authority and truth.  No one could just make them up.

Scripture Is Evidence

With everything that I have written so far, a reader of the Bible can depend on its contents to believe its doctrine.  Where there is no sure evidence outside of scripture, scripture is the evidence.  If God says holy men of God wrote the words of God under verbal, plenary inspiration, we believe that.  If He says He will preserve all of those same words and how He will do that, we believe that.  Whatever might contradict what scripture says, we hold to scripture and reject what contradicts it.

Jesus said that the gates of hell would not prevail against His church, so they didn’t.  Jesus said His Words would not pass away, so they didn’t.  Believers deny whatever contradicts what God said.  They deny modern textual critics who deny the perfect preservation of scripture.  Believers deny the disappearance of true churches outside of the state church.  They deny alterations of the creation story in Genesis 1 through 3.  True Christians accept the table of nations in Genesis 10.  Everything God says is true and every man a liar.

Scripture is the test of truth.  Jesus said, God’s Word is truth.  As an example, today so-called experts talk about climate change and the end of life on earth.  We reject those claims.  Even the evidence outside the Bible challenges their assertions, but the Bible presents a different view.

The Bible Guides the Right Interpretation of History

The Bible provides the authoritative basis for the right interpretation of history.  If a view of history contradicts the Bible, believers accept the Bible over the view.  Isaiah 40 to 48 talks about the interpretation of history.  Isaiah calls these “the former matters.”  Isaiah, because of God, could relate former matters with present and future ones.  God sees it all at all times.  He knows it all.

Since the Bible is true, it is also evidence.  This is a matter of faith.  We believe it, based on that evidence.  It guides our interpretation.  When we look back at what happened, we start with presuppositions based upon the Bible.  Our interpretation of history must conform to the Bible.

In the recent debate with James White, Thomas Ross started with scriptural presuppositions.  They are true.  God said what He would do with scripture.  We might not prove the fulfillment of these presuppositions outside of scripture.  They’re still true.

If God said He would preserve every word, God would make all of them available to every generation of believers, and He would use the church to do it, that’s what we believe.  What God said provides the authoritative basis for the right interpretation of history.  I believe what God said He would do, because what He said is true.

What Pleases God

When people come up with other points of view on preservation that reject or deny what God said, I reject those.  They may say they have evidence.  I will look at it, and I have.  Their so-called evidence is an interpretation of history.  That’s all it is.  They say this and that about Erasmus or Beza or Athanasius that all conforms to their naturalistic point of view.  I listen to it, see how it fits into a biblical view of history, and if it doesn’t, I don’t believe it.  That is what pleases God.

How I look at the history of the preservation of scripture is also how I look at the history of the preservation of the church.  It is how I look at the history of Christian doctrine.  Because I don’t believe in an apostasy of orthodox doctrine and practice, I reject that it happened.  History seems to say it did in certain instances, but how trustworthy is history before the printing press?

Example

James White uses the example of Athanasius as proof that the Comma Johanneum (important part of 1 John 5:7) did not exist at that time.  Athanasius didn’t quote it apparently.  First, we have to depend on Athanasius.  Then we have to rely on the report of Athanasius.  Did someone report him accurately?  And then we have to trust the preservation of the report of Athanasius.  Why was this report preserved and other reports not?   To the victors go the spoils.

On some doctrinal content, not necessarily this one, did the Roman Catholics control the flow of information and destroy what did not confirm its doctrine?  Someone can say it’s true, because they read something.  James White did that.  It works today for his point of view.  Did what he say fit with scriptural presuppositions?  He says it fit with Athanasius, and what scripture says, be gone.  I reject his interpretation of it because it contradicts scriptural presuppositions.  That is how believers should interpret history.

Greeks Seek After Wisdom

Paul said the Jews seek after signs.  They validated with signs.  He said, Greeks seek after wisdom.  They validated with wisdom.  For something to be true, was it accompanied by signs?  For something to be true, does wisdom confirm it?  Believers say, the foolishness of preaching, which is the substance of preaching from scripture.  That glorifies God.

When James White and others present their wisdom, who is glorified?  They are.  When we speak, they say it sounds like foolishness.  Does this sound familiar when you think about what the Apostle Paul said?

AUTHORS OF THE BLOG

  • Kent Brandenburg
  • Thomas Ross

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