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Living In Utah: My Observations
My wife, parents, and I moved into Utah mid-August 2021. Ten years ago, it never occurred that I would live in Utah and if someone asked, I would have said, zero chance. As Charles Dickins wrote first in The Pickwick Papers, his 1837 novel, “Never say never.” Someone recently asked where I was now, and when I said, “Utah,” he replied, “I love Utah.” That was it. He loved Utah.The Mormons had to leave Illinois, so 148 took seventeen months behind the leadership of Brigham Young to the Wasatch Valley, the Intermountain region of the United States, in 1847-1848. Approximately 70,000 Mormons came over the next 22 years. Half the population of the state is still, using their preferred title, Later Day Saint. As you might imagine, the LDS religion has had and continues to have a huge influence on Utah.I know many here don’t like this mentioned, but, yes, there are polygamist areas of Utah, certain towns famous for their polygamy. Jon Krakauer wrote about it in his book, Under the Banner of Heaven. He was driving through Southern Utah, stopped in a small town to get some gas, and he noticed that someone followed him out of town to be sure he left.Besides the Mormonism, Utah is the West. It is a Western state. That’s different than the West Coast. Despite LDS, the state has a Western flavor. It looks Western. There are gigantic mountains on both sides jutting up from a desert in the middle of which is the Great Salt Lake. When you leave certain populated areas, you run into nothingness for many miles all around.When we arrived in August, it was dry and hot. Your lawn won’t grow if you don’t water it. You don’t have mosquitoes. November and December has seen rain and snow in this valley, but especially in the mountains. Now there are very tall white mountains everywhere and wonderful ski resorts and snow sports if you like that kind of thing. Many do.Utah has five national parks: Arches, Bryce Canyon, Canyonlands, Capitol Reef, and Zion National Parks. Many states have none. A very short drive from Utah, you have Grand Teton, Yellowstone, Glacier, and Grand Canyon National Parks. You can buy an annual pass to National Parks, so many are in driving distance, for the price of just Yellowstone.When Brigham Young reached the precipice that looked down into the valley where Salt Lake City is today, he said, “This is the place.” They found their promised land. Those words are now on a gigantic statue in Pioneer Park, which celebrates the Mormon founding of Utah. Around it are statues of the founders of Utah, which were Mormons.
My Observation
Everything from here on is my observation. I like Utah. I think it’s a great place to live. Statistics also prove that. Brigham Young and those original men had a good plan. Everything is square, usually with wide streets. They organized everything around the Mormon Temple in Salt Lake City and now the other temples built in the state, which are lit up every night. Organized in geographic precision are also the meetinghouses, almost all looking identical, thousands spread all over the state.The Mormons brought a desire to build good buildings. Most buildings look nice and well-built. When I visit various doctors with and for my parents, you walk into a nice lobby and sit in a very nice waiting room. Restaurants and hotels owned by LDS people are well built and usually well organized and served. Clinics and hospitals are equal distance away from each other, as if they were organized for the greatest convenience for the most people.LDS people are entrepreneurial. There are businesses popping up everywhere, what seem like more business than what could be operated by one state. The city planning is better than other places. Everything is very convenient. They have everything you would want or need in close driving distance.Many businesses close on Sundays here. I know Chick-fil-A does it, which seems strange other places, but many of them close here in Utah. Very popular places don’t open on Sunday. Traffic is very light on Sunday. People don’t have to drive far to get to their meetinghouses. When I get on the highway to go to where we are at church, it’s empty. Very few are out there driving.If you haven’t lived here, and you move here, you notice the people. It’s different. Mormons are unusually friendly. How do I know they’re Mormons? They have a common behavior that has affected the whole state. When I signal, drivers don’t speed up to stop me from merging. They slow down and let me in. I’m accustomed to fighting in traffic. It doesn’t happen here. Traffic isn’t bad, but even with traffic, you don’t get the sense that you might get road rage at some point. That rage seems to be absent here. I saw it weekly in California.I’ve been to many, many doctors appointments. I’ve met six different doctors. In every case, the conversation goes like this after the initial introduction. “So you’ve just moved here, where are you from?” I tell them where we came from. “So what brings you here?” I explain that I’m a Baptist pastor. I’ve had long conversations in the office. They take their time with you in the office, very patient. I’ve never seen it where in public places, people talk to you about religion.
The Religion
Since I’ve been in Utah, I have evangelized, so far not close to as much as I was especially in our year in Oregon. The neighborhoods I have evangelized have been almost 100 percent Mormon. You knock on a door, LDS answers. Next one, LDS answers. Again, LDS answers. And again, LDS answers. You could easily get 20 Mormons in a row here.Utah does not stop you from going door-to-door. Its people don’t discourage you from going door-to-door. We’re going in very cold weather right now, under freezing. They do not act like you’re strange for knocking on their door in the middle of Winter, the coldest time of the year. You don’t feel like you’re going to be kicked out of places. You don’t feel like some one is going to yell at you and cuss you out for ringing their door bell. A well above average number of people will answer the door. Very few have no-soliciting signs on their door. This is all different for me.Talking to Mormons is all very, very similar. They want you to think that they are Christian, that they are like you. They’ll even thank you for coming by and doing what you’re doing, even though you are there to tell them something that they do not believe. At your most confrontational, they still want you to think they’re the same as you, that they are Christian, and that we’re all in this together. I don’t think it’s fake. They do not want you to think they’re weird or in a strange religion. In most cases, they are super, super chipper, up beat, and showing you how wonderful it all is.The Mormons cover for the strangest parts of their religion. It almost seems like they don’t know how different and odd it is. I’m not trying to be offensive if you’re reading this and you’re Mormon. Talking to a 72 year old Mormon man, he told me that both John the Apostle and Moses both right now were living on the earth, and that was part of their doctrine. I didn’t know about that one until he told me. The wheels turned in the brain. It is a strange bit of hermeneutics on their part and not even representative of the strangest beliefs that they have.When talking to Mormons, I find that they do not know how unorthodox they are. They don’t know how unlike Christianity they are. Most of them don’t know what biblical Christianity is. Many also don’t understand their own religion enough and especially in comparison to Christianity to know how far off it is. They are not very conversational with important parts of their doctrine.Even though Mormonism claims to be a restored religion, something restoring Christianity back to what it was at the beginning, the proof for major doctrines comes down to Joseph Smith, some of the original influential leaders, Brigham Young, and then future presidents. Certain key men, writers and thinkers, took on the task of trying to put together all these disparate sources into a cohesive Mormon doctrine book from the quilt work of contradictions.I could start with something as simple as who Jesus Christ is. Mormons are not sure about Jesus, at least as I’ve talked to them so far. They do not know who God is. A main reason, I’ve found, is that there is so much difference of opinion in Mormon writing. The human authors of Mormonism, and it really is all humanly devised, even though they claim to have received it from God, disagree with one another. Later, editors really, have had to try to piece it all together.Here’s a simple one. Christianity, the Bible, says that Jesus was God who became man. Mormonism says that Jesus was man who became God. When did Jesus become God? In Mormon doctrine, Jesus was man first and then God.LDS call Jesus eternal God. You might think that means eternity past. It doesn’t, but then it doesn’t depending on how you explain it. Everyone splinters off an original one spiritual deity. Maybe they mean that now Jesus is eternal God, eternal as in future, but not in past, because even God wasn’t God in eternity past, unless he’s that one Spirit off of whom God splintered from. Anyway, it’s tough.I know Mormons want us, they and I, to be the same. We’re not. A good way to point that out without waiting is to say that when Joseph Smith received his first vision in the grove, where the father and son appeared to him in physical bodies, that they told him that all other religions were wrong. I tell them, I’m not offended. It’s just that we know we don’t believe the same according to Joseph Smith. And that’s important. We’re not the same. We can’t both be right.Even if you can persuade a Mormon that what they teach is wrong, giving them actual proof, they can still fall back on new revelation from God, either given to their President or to themselves personally. Their gift of the Holy Spirit, means He still speaks to them. Even if they don’t like Joseph Smith, God can give them the same doctrine directly. That is a lot to unravel.My wife and I talked to a young Mormon wife and mother, and I said we can’t believe whatever Jesus we want Him to be, like Jesus is a rorschach test. She disagreed. Anyone can find in Jesus whatever they want to believe. If someone wants him to be Chinese, he will be Chinese. All embrace mysticism, and many do this level of it.I will have more observations for you in the future.
LDS Visions or Revelations a Consideration for Their Danger as a Source of Authority for Everyone Else, Including Baptists
The visions or revelations of Joseph Smith came about in America at a time in this country when many others were receiving their own visions or revelations, paving the way for Smith’s and the acceptance of his by others. The United States was a land of equality, equal opportunity, and populism. It despised a king and state religion. It liked, loved really, democratic society, where everyone’s voice was heard, and it was, therefore, acceptable to get your own personal revelation from God as a part of your personal relationship with God. That spirit is still very alive in America. Americans distrust their own institutions and this is woven into the fabric of being an American. That includes the institution of the church.
In early nineteenth century, especially on the frontier, people operated in many unconventional ways, depending on superstitions in medicine, farming, and predicting the weather. It was not unusual to use dowsing to find water with a special, forked stick. People could see signs everywhere, giving them guidance from above or within. Snake oil salesman got their name in this era, literally selling snake oil, promising cures to almost anything, circumventing the conventional manner of tending to one’s health.
Joseph Smith was 14 years of age when he had his first vision or revelation from God, and the Smiths, Joseph Smith Sr. and mom, Lucy, weren’t members of a church. Joseph Jr. didn’t come up with the idea of getting visions. It was a thing to have. Only special people had them.
The Smiths couldn’t find a church they liked or agreed with, were still looking, and then Joseph ‘heard from God’ that there was no true church to join. Convenient. Churches have set beliefs and if you are a rank and file non-clergy, you might disagree, your opinion probably doesn’t count for much, and you don’t have a means of having your own in those situations. You might not want the church doctrines and practices imposed on you and also their financial obligations. You want a church where perhaps everyone could share, like is seen in the first church in Jerusalem in Acts chapters 2 and 5. That’s what churches should do, accept your way and then take care of you with little expectation.
On top of everything above, even though there was freedom, it was tough to navigate the new world, especially if you were not born into wealth, grinding it out to earn a living. Many made it through subsistence farming, sometimes succeeding, perhaps enough to invest in a cockamamie get-rich-quick scheme, lose everything and start over again. People still are very allured by the suggestion of some easier path to success, willing to subject themselves to whatever comes along that promises to work better, reinventing the wheel.
Joseph Smith lived in an environment, a culture, that someone could believe that God was talking to him directly. All of the new, astounding doctrines and practices of LDS came by this manner, contradicting doctrines and practices hitherto already established in the history of Christianity: the preexistence of human souls or spirits, God was once a man on another planet before being exalted to Godhood, celestial marriage, polygamy, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are not the same being, God organized the world but did not create it from nothing, and proxy baptism for dead people. It was also revealed to him through a story that all of these beliefs were the original truth that had been lost and buried for 1400 years. On many occasions, Joseph Smith and then other Mormon leaders received revelations at a time that fit whatever it was they needed to hear from God to make a pronouncement to deal with that situation.
Matthew Bowman writes in The Mormon People: The Making of an American Faith (pp. 10-12):
The Smiths had unwittingly moved into an ideal location for a family with unresolved spiritual yearnings, the center of what one historian has called “the antebellum spiritual hothouse” and another “the burned-over district.” . . . . The optimism, instability, and freedom of the New York frontier were life’s blood to the eclecticism and experimentation always to be found at the margins of mainstream Christianity. The Shakers, for instance, so named for their physical worship services, had fled to America from a disapproving Britain under the leadership of Ann Lee, whom they believe to be Christ reincarnated. In the United States, they found fertile ground for both converts and settlement, and in 1826 they established a colony less than thirty miles from Palmyra. . . . North of Albany, the farmer William Miller sat by the fire in his home in Low Hampton, New York, feverishly working out the precise date of the Second Coming from the book of Daniel for his thousands of followers, who were convinced that they needed no trained pastors to interpret scripture for them.
But the Smiths had always been drawn — particularly Lucy — not to such visionaries but to the more mainstream ecstasies of evangelical revivalism. The force behind revivalism was the Methodists, who . . . urged potential converts to embrace Christ in a personal divine encounter. At Methodist camp meetings, itinerant preachers, though frequently uneducated and even unlettered, learned how to muse the Holy Spirit among their listeners. Between rousing and sometimes raucous gospel hymns, they offered not prepared sermon on doctrinal topics but emotional appeals, promising forgiveness, warning of hell, reaching their hands to the heavens, and pleading with the crowd to leave sin behind and walk forward to be saved in the arms of Christ. . . . “Men are so spiritually sluggish,” declared Charles Grandison Finney, the great revivalist of the age, “that they must be so excited that they will break over their countervailing influences before they will obey God.” Finney’s talents shone in a month-long revival in 1830-31 in Rochester, a few miles from Palmyra, in which he converted hundreds. . . .
The sort of spiritual manifestations the Smith family had already experienced were not new to most revivalists. Portentous dreams were common particularly among itinerant Methodist preachers, as were the type of healings and providential manifestations Lucy had experienced. . . .
It was in this atmosphere that Joseph Jr., then a young teenager, began thinking about religion.
The ecstasies and visions of revivalism were the seedbed or hothouse for Joseph Smith and the new religion. What makes this acceptable? Some might say, because what they revealed was not false. I don’t know that they can say, that what they’re saying is in fact true. How do you know it’s true, if it is? Someone could say, it’s scriptural. Well, then you don’t need a vision or a revelation from God. It’s already in the Bible. If cannot be proven to be false, then it is an acceptable vision or revelation.
If someone can hear revelations from God, how do those differentiate from scripture? If they are from God, that is equal to scripture. One cannot accept visions and revelations as from God. That opens up Pandora’s box. It’s not acceptable. And yet it is today. You really can’t question it. You’ve got to accept whatever version of it. How does a LDS today distinguish evangelical visions from their LDS ones? It really just buttresses the point of Mormon visions and revelations, that God is still talking to men. He’s still talking to Mormons.
LDS do not have a kind of closed canon of scripture. They have their continued visions, their continued revelations, even if they don’t like the LDS teachings, which many LDS has a problem with, and with their prophets. What has pushed LDS along is their continued revelations. I had a long talk last Saturday to an LDS man, coming out of the garage of his big house, a CEO of a small software company, and he disconnects from LDS doctrine, but he’s got his own testimony, his own experience, his own way of connecting with God, so he can pick and choose. LDS is fine with that. They encourage it. They might call it “the burning in the bosom.” Before Joseph Smith got his first vision, he prayed James 1:5, and that’s become the pattern of LDS since then.
I estimate that a majority of Baptists still get direct messages from God. They call it different things, but these impressions are authoritative, nonetheless, very often for some of the major decisions of their lives. When they give testimony to the important decisions, they don’t say, it was scriptural, my church was fine with it, so I had the liberty to do it, so I did. They say, I knew, God told me. Sometimes God also told the spouse, as a validation. Both knew. Both heard.
The one who questions the experience is the one who says he’s in authority, he’s a king, taking away from the egalitarian nature of receiving visions. Some kind of exegesis of an authoritative book is not sufficient for a genuine Christian experience. Obviously there are contradictions, because many have been excommunicated for contradicting the vision of someone in authority, Smith or Brigham Young. The acceptance of a democratic community fine with your receiving your vision or revelation is the level playing field. Revelations aren’t just for the elite few, but for anyone. This is the “antebellum spiritual hothouse” that we still live in.
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