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1. Note the post here:

   http://kentbrandenburg.blogspot.com/2015/06/the-lake-of-fire-eternal-torment-or.html

   also.

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2. Note the post here:

   http://kentbrandenburg.blogspot.com/2015/06/the-lake-of-fire-eternal-torment-or.html

   also.

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3. Dear all,

   Here are some very interesting and relevant Bible texts about the final judgment of the wicked.

   Best wishes,
   Berean

   Malachi 4:1-3 "For behold, the day is coming, Burning like an oven, And all the proud, yes, all who do wickedly will be stubble. And the day which is coming shall burn them up," Says the LORD of hosts, "That will leave them neither root nor branch. 2 But to you who fear My name The Sun of Righteousness shall arise With healing in His wings; And you shall go out And grow fat like stall-fed calves. 3 You shall trample the wicked, For they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet On the day that I do this," Says the LORD of hosts.

   Psalm 92:7 When the wicked spring as the grass, and when all the workers of iniquity do flourish; it is that they shall be destroyed for ever:

   Psalm 73:17-19 Until I went into the sanctuary of God; Then I understood their end. 18 Surely You set them in slippery places; You cast them down to destruction. 19 Oh, how they are brought to desolation, as in a moment! They are utterly consumed with terrors.

   Psalm 37:9-10 For evildoers shall be cut off; But those who wait on the LORD, They shall inherit the earth. 10 For yet a little while and the wicked shall be no more; Indeed, you will look carefully for his place, But it shall be no more.

   Psalm 37:20 But the wicked shall perish; And the enemies of the LORD, Like the splendor of the meadows, shall vanish. Into smoke they shall vanish away.

   Psalm 68:1-2 Let God arise, Let His enemies be scattered; Let those also who hate Him flee before Him. 2 As smoke is driven away, So drive them away; As wax melts before the fire, So let the wicked perish at the presence of God.

   Matthew 3:10-12 And even now the ax is laid to the root of the trees. Therefore every tree which does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 11 "I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance, but He who is coming after me is mightier than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire. 12 "His winnowing fan is in His hand, and He will thoroughly clean out His threshing floor, and gather His wheat into the barn; but He will burn up the chaff with unquenchable [a fire that cannot be quenched] fire."

   Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

   Philippians 3:18-19 For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ: 19 whose end is destruction, whose god is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame — who set their mind on earthly things.

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4. And a few more…

   2 Thessalonians 1:7-9 when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels, 8 in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9 These shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power,

   2 Thessalonians 2:8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming.

   2 Peter 2:6 and turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes, condemned them to destruction, making them an example to those who afterward would live ungodly;

   2 Peter 3:10-12 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up. 11 Therefore, since all these things will be dissolved, what manner of persons ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness, 12 looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be dissolved, being on fire, and the elements will melt with fervent heat?

   Revelation 2:11 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. He who overcomes shall not be hurt by the second death." '

   Ezekiel 28:18-19 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffic; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee. 19 All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more.

   John 3:16 "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.

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5. Dear SDA friend,

   Thanks for the list of verses. They are all wonderful, interesting, and great, and born-again Christian Baptists believe every single one of them, along with every single word of Scripture, as the very words of Scripture are inspired. None of them prove annihilationism.

   Why not deal with the passages actually listed in the post, and show how they don't teach the classical Christian doctrine of hell preached by Christ and the Apostles, and taught by Baptists from the first century until today? One of the main passages has a post dedicated to it here:

   http://kentbrandenburg.blogspot.com/2015/06/the-lake-of-fire-eternal-torment-or.html

   where it is reproduced from here:

   http://faithsaves.net/lake-of-fire/

   Please comment on that passages exegeted there and refute the exegesis of Scripture if your doctrine really is true. Ignoring the passages dealt with in this post and that one will not be very convincing to people.

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6. An SDA wrote to me and claimed that he would deal with my “Bible Truths for Seventh-Day Adventist Friends” work:

   https://faithsaves.net/seventh-day-adventist/

   I directed him here to respond.

   I am afraid, my SDA friend, that you are taking Jude 7 mightily out of context in your attempt to prove annihilationism:

   Jude 6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
   Jude 7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

   Jude 6 ἀγγέλους τε τοὺς μὴ τηρήσαντας τὴν ἑαυτῶν ἀρχήν, ἀλλὰ ἀπολιπόντας τὸ ἴδιον οἰκητήριον, εἰς κρίσιν μεγάλης ἡμέρας δεσμοῖς ἀϊδίοις ὑπὸ ζόφον τετήρηκεν.
   Jude 7 ὡς Σόδομα καὶ Γόμορρα, καὶ αἱ περὶ αὐτὰς πόλεις, τὸν ὅμοιον τούτοις τρόπον ἐκπορνεύσασαι, καὶ ἀπελθοῦσαι ὀπίσω σαρκὸς ἑτέρας, πρόκεινται δεῖγμα, πυρὸς αἰωνίου δίκην ὑπέχουσαι.

   Jude 7 clearly refers to the inhabitants of Sodom and Gomorrah going to hell and burning there forever in eternal fire. It was not the city that was committing sodomy and fornication, but the people were doing these abominations.

   Note as well that the “suffering” is a present participle and the “example” is a present tense verb. This is a continuing action; they continue, even from the time they were cast into hell to this time, to be suffering, and to be an example, to those who live ungodly. They ARE an example, and ARE suffering eternal fire right now. Jude 7 actually proves eternal torment, exactly the opposite of what you are claiming.

   Please note the discussion of this passage and other texts here:

   https://faithsaves.net/hell-forever/

   Thank you.

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