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Grace Yields a Higher Standard Than Pharisees

The following recent articles and in this chronological order relate to this post.  One    Two   Three   Four   Five

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The Pharisees

“The Pharisees” are those historical and biblical characters with whom Jesus interacted in the Gospels.  Pharisees are those taking up the mantel of “the Pharisees” since then.  The Pharisees inundated the Israel into which Jesus came.

I like to say, “The inside of a barrel looks like the barrel.”  If you live inside the barrel, your whole world looks like the barrel.  The Pharisees so saturated the thinking of Israel during the life of Jesus that Israel looked like the Pharisees.  The world of the audience to whom Jesus preached the Sermon on the Mount also looked like or literally was the Pharisees.

The most common viewpoint of the Pharisees is that they added a whole bunch of strict standards to the preexisting rules of scripture.  This popular notion says the Pharisees multiplied an immense number of added regulations that burdened down the Israelite people.  This idea leaves the impression that Jesus came to relieve people of standards.  He came to save them from the imposition of written rules.  This is a deadly lie about Jesus and what He did and taught that generation.

Jesus and Matthew 5

I return to Matthew 5 to see what Jesus said at the beginning of His Sermon on the Mount.  He said in verse 17:

Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

The Pharisees and thus the people of that audience suspected Jesus would destroy the law or the prophets.  He debunked that speculation and added, “I am come to fulfill the law or the prophets.”  “The law or the prophets” in 5:17 is all of the Old Testament scripture.

“To fulfill” the Old Testament at least was keeping the Old Testament, but further transcending it.  Jesus’ standard was not the minimized, reduced standard of the Pharisees.  It went above theirs; it transcended theirs.  His righteousness exceeded theirs.  In no way, as He says in verse 19, was He teaching people not to keep everything in the Old Testament.  No, just the opposite.  Then Jesus illustrates that in six different sections between 5:21 and 5:48.

The purpose of Jesus was showing the sinfulness of the Pharisees and the audience they spawned.  Their viewpoint was not God’s.  They did not represent God.  This would take someone back to the first thing He said in the sermon in verse 3: “Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.”  His audience needed to understand their spiritual poverty to enter the kingdom of heaven.

Saving Grace

Saving grace as an outcome of conversion, which proceeds from God — the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, does not lower the standard for righteousness of the Pharisees.  It exceeds it.  As a first illustration, Jesus uses one of the ten commandments, “Thou shalt not kill,” in verse 21.  Pharisaical thinking justified itself by saying it had not physically killed anyone.  That still occurs today.  People still think they’re fine because of something they haven’t done.  This indicates they lack spiritual poverty.

Using four different examples in verse 21 to verse 26, Jesus shows that His or God’s standard exceeds or transcends the letter of scripture.  It is more than just physically killing someone.  They’ve murdered someone in their hearts if they even showed contempt toward them.  Jesus goes so far to say that they’ve murdered the person with whom they would not initiate reconciliation.  Not reconciling is showing contempt.  God would not accept their worship as long as they would not try to reconcile.

The Pharisees were not about strict standards.  They were about diminishing God’s standards with their own, designed to be more easily kept.  They tried to keep these on their own without the grace of God.  Jesus was not following their example or trajectory.  He taught a different way than theirs.

Evangelicals and Jesus and the Pharisees and Grace

Most evangelicals today take an opposite message from Jesus than the one He told in His sermon.  They teach that Jesus came to relieve the people of standards.  I use the word “standards,” but you could use laws, regulations, or the like.  Jesus kept everything and in verse 19, He said that the greatest in His kingdom would teach others to do the same.

Jesus went further with adultery too.  It wasn’t just the physical act, but looking at a woman to lust after her in your heart (verse 28).  Jesus is explaining what He meant by fulfilling the law or the prophets.  Keeping the standards was never the means of salvation.  Yes, the addition of works was a burden on the people reckoned by the Pharisees.  People could not escape whatever shortcomings they had with the Pharisee approach.

If salvation came by keeping the rules, no one could do that.  This is why the Pharisees minimized or reduced the law or the prophets.  They tried to concoct a way of salvation through works.  The Pharisees developed their own handbook of sorts to accompany scripture to explain the procedures for keeping scripture.  This was not internalizing what God said out of love and obeying it from the heart.  Again, this is the burden they created.

The Pharisees made doing suitable good works impossible.  This was an exhausting, never ceasing burden.  Their system complicated the obedience to actual scripture.  It put them, the Pharisees, ahead of God, while claiming credit for God.

The Repercussions of Botching the Pharisees

People like the idea of not having to keep moral standards.  This is a very popular view of grace today.  This mirrors the Pharisees in that it minimizes or reduces scripture.  Pharisees did it to make a way for salvation by works.  Evangelicals do it in a way to change the nature of the grace of God.  I say that they treat grace as a garbage can, when scripture treats it as a cleansing agent.  Grace instead enables the keeping of the standards, rules, or laws of scripture.  Unlike the perversion of grace, grace saves from the violations of the law and the salvation changes the life.

You probably notice that churches have gone downhill.  They have changed in nature.  Part of it is this very interpretation of the Pharisees.  Evangelicals use the Pharisees as a reason to reduce standards.  They don’t get rid of all of them, which should send up a red flag.  If the Pharisees were all about having standards, then why don’t we eliminate all of them?  Quite commonly evangelical keep the ones still convenient, very much like the Pharisees did.  With this system, you still get credit for doing good works without obedience to everything that God said.

Scripture shows God wants everything He said kept.  It’s not grace not to keep what God said.  That’s an impostor grace.  It claims grace, but it’s a placebo or a poser of grace.  God does not accept not believing and not doing what He said, even in the so-called non-essentials.  Man’s adaptations, innovations, and modifications do not please God.  They are not of faith.

In scripture, God killed people for changing the recipe for the incense at the altar of incense.  He killed tens of thousands when David numbered the people against His will.  Grace tends toward keeping what God said, not squirming out of it.  Grace yields a higher standard than the Pharisees, not a lesser one.

How Evangelicals Now Move the Goalposts on Bibliology

The Study of Bibliology

People who read here will associate me with the doctrine of preservation of scripture, because of the book, Thou Shalt Keep Them.  I and others argue the biblical and historical doctrine of the perfection preservation of scripture in the language in which it was written.  The Bible teaches its own preservation and it shows perfect preservation.  The doctrine of preservation falls under the general category of the doctrine of bibliology.  What does the Bible say about itself?

The study of bibliology includes sub-categories of doctrines.  Early on in the Bible, we read Satan attack God’s Word (Genesis 3:1-5).  From his attack, we see his desire to undermine or destroy God’s Word.  We suppose that Satan wants to do this, and then in observation of history, we see this occur also with his using the world system.  Satan uses people to destroy the Bible by undermining and destroying biblical teachings about the Bible, which includes the sub-categories of doctrines under bibliology.

Presupposing What the Bible Says About Itself

Being an evangelical presupposes belief in and from the Bible, what it says.  Truly saved people believe the gospel, which is in the Bible.  Evangelicals have believed the Bible for salvation to be evangelicals.  Saying they believe the Bible means they believe the Bible on the doctrines as subcategories of bibliology.  What are those?  Among those are the inspiration, preservation, canonicity, and perspicuity of scripture.

From where at one time in the past evangelicalism supported scriptural bibliology, I contend that they move the goalposts.  What was inspiration is no longer inspiration, what was preservation is no longer preservation, and so on.  The serious modification of the doctrine of bibliology does destructive damage.

Attacks on the Doctrine of Scripture

The major bad outcome of the attack on categories of the doctrine of scripture is the undermining or elimination of the authority of God’s Word.  This effects both belief and practice of scripture.  I have observed especially these four attacks.

Inspiration

One, people attack the inspiration of scripture.  A common attack on inspiration is that the Bible is written only by men.  There are variations of this attack, as I see it, accommodated or supported by those calling themselves evangelicals.  They would even say they believe in inspiration, but I’m saying that they moved the goalposts on inspiration.

Preservation

Two, people attack the preservation of scripture.  There are a few common attacks on the doctrine of preservation.  First, the Bible doesn’t teach its own preservation.  Second, God preserved scripture in heaven, not on earth.  Third, God preserved all the Words of God in the preponderance of the hand copies or manuscripts, but they both haven’t all been available or identified and there is no settled text.  Fourth, the Words of God in the original languages were lost (not preserved) but restored in translations even like the King James Version.

Perspicuity

Three, people attack the perspicuity of scripture when they say that we are not sure of what the Bible means.  It’s now mostly an opinion as to what the Bible says.  It’s only men’s interpretations anymore.  So many interpretations exist, it’s impossible to know the right one.  Today people are shut out or shut off from the meaning of words and what men meant when they wrote them.  These are ways that men today undermine the doctrine of perspicuity.

Application

Four, people attack the ability to apply scripture in many different ways, so that no one is sure about the application of the Bible.  That was a different era, culture foreign to us today, so that even if we knew what passages meant, it doesn’t apply today, especially cultural issues.

The Bible is a very old book written for a people that lived thousands of years ago that does not apply in any significant way today.  Even if you try to apply it, you can’t do that with any authority, because it could only be your opinion or preference.  The gap in history is too monumental to bridge from then to now.  These are various types of attacks today on the application of scripture.

Variations occur of the above four attacks with many different arguments employed.  The attacks take away from the authority of scripture.  Someone may call the Bible, the Word of God, but it no longer has the same authority as a book from God, because we are so unsure or uncertain about it.  In its usefulness, the Bible possesses a level something more akin to an important historical or philosophical resource.

Cutting Losses

Someone may say that it’s to their credit, that evangelicals today do not want a mass scale rejection of Christianity, so they invent new positions about the Bible to hinder an exodus.  They may use someone like Bart Ehrman as an example, who pushed the eject button Christianity when he dug deeper into the trustworthiness of scripture.  He could not square the guarantees of God and the certainty expressed in scripture with what the evidence presented to him in class and through his own investigation.

Evangelicals and others more conservative than Ehrman say that his former fundamentalist position caused his apostasy.  Someone cannot treat the Bible with an absolutist or purist stance.  Today even evangelicals would say that God didn’t even intend for the readers or audience of scripture to treat the Bible with such assurance.  Evangelicals now modify the former positions to rescue or spare the next generation.

As an Example

Just as an example, a Bart Ehrman argues against the historical reliability of the gospels.  He asks the question, “Do the gospels report or represent what really happened?”  His answer is “No.”

Many evangelicals now are afraid to say that everything in the gospels is reliable, but a high enough percentage is verifiable to the extent that the gospels are reliable.  They are at least as or more reliable than other extant writings from the same period.  The gospels are amazingly reliable for a historical document and that is good enough.

Moving the Goalposts

Evangelicals are moving the goalposts now on bibliology.  Mostly they see this as necessary to cut their losses.  If they try to take what they would call a strict fundamentalist view on the Bible, they’ll get exposed by scholarship.  In this era of the internet, they’ll lose the next generation.  Very smart men will steal these young people.  The idea of “cut losses” is reducing them.  Instead of saying that scripture is absolute, to say there is sufficient confidence or suitable confidence without absolute full confidence.

Are evangelicals and even professing fundamentalists right or true in their assessment of the conditions of the proof or evidence for the Bible and Christianity?  Are these recent modifications and adaptations of scriptural, historical, or classical bibliology outdated?  Do the evangelicals move the goalposts on bibliology and if they do, should we join them?

More to Come

The Church Fathers Are NotThe Church Fathers (Part Three)

Part One     Part Two

Evangelicals and the Like Embrace the Church Fathers

Evangelicals and even fundamentalists very often associate themselves with those they call, “the church fathers.”  They treat these men as their fathers.  Even those today labeled, “conservative evangelicals,” affiliate themselves and their history with “the church fathers.”

Evangelical theologians, pastors, and preachers will use the church fathers as authority for the authorship of New Testament books.  They quote them for instance in support of Pauline authorship of his epistles and Mark’s authorship of the second gospel.  They say things like, “early church father Irenaeus was a disciple of Polycarp, who was a disciple of the Apostle John, and he testified on Polycarp’s authority that John wrote the gospel.”

Cherry Picking Favored Quotes of the Church Fathers

The same subjects of the above paragraph also cherry pick quotes from the church fathers for the purpose of authenticating certain Christian doctrines.  If someone just chooses the statements of church fathers that support the doctrines he believes, that doesn’t prove the overall beliefs of these church fathers.  One could say that regarding doctrine, the church fathers “giveth and taketh away.”  One does not find the belief and practice of a church father by quoting where he agrees and not quoting where he disagrees.

Church fathers might represent the Trinity in a correct way and defend the Trinity against false teachers.  They also might defend something like the doctrine of original sin in a comprehensive way against those who reject original sin.  It seems rather convenient to choose supportive doctrine while ignoring the antagonistic.

False Doctrines of Church Fathers Besmirching Everything

Were the church fathers the church fathers or not?  I’m saying, “No,” and with a just or fair view of all the evidence.

The false doctrines of church fathers should somewhat besmirch their teaching of true doctrines.  Just because they get some things right doesn’t mean overall that they’re right.  All of the evidence about and from the church fathers should come into the consideration of that which these church fathers are fathers.  If all the cumulative evidence indicates that they believed a different gospel, they are not the fathers of a true gospel.  If someone believes a true gospel and says he believes a true gospel, he would not consider someone who declares a false gospel to be the father of his belief.

I want to especially again focus on the teaching of the church fathers on baptism.  Roman Catholics today will comprehensively say that if someone goes to the church fathers, their historic writings will make him a Roman Catholic.  They can give many examples of this too.  Men starting as something other than Roman Catholic became Roman Catholics because they thought the church fathers represent true church history.  If someone claims the church fathers as his church history, then church history is Roman Catholic.

The Church Fathers Taught Baptismal Regeneration

First Century Fathers and Baptismal Regeneration

Yet, church history is not Roman Catholic.  The Roman Catholic Church is not the church and it’s history is not church history.  Its fathers are also not the church fathers.  Again, baptism provides a good example on this.  Letter of Barnabas 7:1 (74AD) says:

But let us enquire whether the Lord took care to signify before hand concerning the water and the cross. Now concerning the water it is written in reference to Israel, how that they would not receive the baptism which bringeth remission of sins, but would build for themselves. . . .

Shepherd of Hermas 3[31]:1 says (80AD):

[T]here is no other repentance, save that which took place when we went down into the water and obtained remission of our former sins.

Second Century Fathers and Baptismal Regeneration

Justin Martyr, First Apology, Chapter 61, says (151AD):

Then they are brought by us where there is water, and are regenerated in the same manner in which we were ourselves regenerated. . . . they then receive the washing with water. . . . and may obtain in the water the remission of sins formerly committed.

Tehophilus of Antioch, To Autolycus, Book 2, Chapter 16, says (181AD):

Moreover, the things proceeding from the waters were blessed by God, that this also might be a sign of men’s being destined to receive repentance and remission of sins, through the water and laver of regeneration.

Irenaeus and Baptismal Regeneration

Irenaeus in Against Heresies, Book 1, Chapter 21, says (189AD):

And when we come to refute them, we shall show in its fitting-place, that this class of men have been instigated by Satan to a denial of that baptism which is regeneration to God, and thus to a renunciation of the whole [Christian] faith. . . . They maintain that those who have attained to perfect knowledge must of necessity be regenerated into that power which is above all. For it is otherwise impossible to find admittance within the Pleroma, since this [regeneration] it is which leads them down into the depths of Bythus. For the baptism instituted by the visible Jesus was for the remission of sins.

I included the above just as a sample, but one could keep moving through history and find even more plenteous examples in the church fathers than these earlier ones.  They get worse through history.  The church fathers required baptism for salvation and very often through pouring or sprinkling.  It’s no wonder that even the Protestant Reformers included this in their doctrine.  Sure, they reformed some doctrines, but they did not eliminate baptism from their requirements in addition to faith.  That means that they still fell short in returning to scripture on the doctrine of salvation.

More to Come

Books By David Cloud Read Aloud: Can You Help Truth Get Out?

Way of Life Literature, run by Bro David Cloud, has many excellent resources.  David Cloud has also written many excellent books, as well as useful videos one can find on his website.  While not infallible, of course, they are well-researched, sound in doctrine, and something I could recommend highly to almost any Christian.  I am very thankful for David Cloud’s works.  His books, along with those published by Bible Baptist Church Publications, helped me to become a Baptist separatist instead of a mushy evangelical after I was converted by the grace of God.

 

Today, sadly, many people do not read.  Brother Cloud has given me permission to have at least some of his books read aloud and then made available on fora such as YouTube, Rumble, and Audible.

 

If you would be interested in reading aloud some David Cloud books, such as his works on Biblical preservation, Bible texts and versions:

Faith vs. The Modern Versions

For Love of the Bible

The Glorious History of the English Bible

Bible Version Question and Answer Database

The Modern Bible Version Hall of Shame
Why We Hold to the King James Bible

or some of Cloud’s other books, such as:

 

Dressing for the Lord

The Future According to the Bible

History and Heritage of Fundamentalism and Fundamental Baptists

and you have a good reading voice–speaking clearly, with expression, and not one that will put people to sleep–and enough commitment to finish something once you have started it, please contact me and let me know.

 

Thank you.

Modernism Is Not an Acceptable Alternative to Postmodernism: Jordan Peterson

Early Experience with Modernism

Growing up in small town Indiana, no one exposed me to modernism.  Without anyone telling me, I read the Bible as literal.  Everything happened in it just like it read.  When I was twelve, my dad took us all off to Bible college in Wisconsin when he was thirty-five years old, but he was never some theologian.

I interacted very little with modernism in college or graduate school.  When I wrote papers, I provided alternative views to my position, so I read a little modernism then.  Faculty did not assign modernist books to read in a fundamentalist college.  The modernist books, I must admit, I used to pad my bibliographies, quoting them in selective fashion.

My theological separation divided the saved from the unsaved.  People either received or rejected Jesus Christ.  I did not categorize someone a modernist.  He just rejected the truth, an unbeliever.  Modernism held no attraction to me.  If someone was a modernist, through my lens he was just an unbeliever.

More Mature Understanding of Modernism

In graduate school, I took a class, History of Fundamentalism, taught by B. Myron Cedarholm, because the normal teacher, Richard Weeks, was ill.  In that class, I heard how that fundamentalism began as a movement in response to modernism or liberalism pervading and then controlling religious institutions.  Modernism invaded Southern Baptist seminaries and the Presbyterian, Princeton Theological Seminary.  None of this still mattered much for me.  It registered as something written on paper, because I had no experience with it.

After marriage and a move to the San Francisco Bay Area to evangelize and then start a Baptist church, I came into recognition of modernism in a personal way, listening to a liberal radio talk show.  I listened to the Ronn Owens Show and his interview with Uta Ranke-Heinemann, a female liberal theologian from Germany.  She wrote, .Putting Away Childish Things: The Virgin Birth, the Empty Tomb, and Other Fairy Tales You Don’t Need to Believe to Have a Living Faith.

On a regular basis, I then encountered modernists in the San Francisco Bay Area.  They went to modernist churches in almost every religious denomination.  They often didn’t reject the Bible.  Instead, they viewed scripture in a mystical way, not taking it literally.  Modernists likely denied the supernatural aspects of scripture.  Many times they allegorized the Bible to make it more malleable for their liberal cultural and social causes.

The Arrival of Postmodernism

As years passed, progressivism turned from modernism to postmodernism.  Now postmodernists can make modernists seem at least moderate, if not conservative.  Postmodernists rejected modernism.  Rather than reinvent the wheel, I ask that you consider what I wrote in 2021:

Modernism then arose and said revelation wasn’t suitable for knowledge. Modernists could point to distinctions between religions and denominations and the wars fought over them. Knowledge instead came through scientific testing, man’s observations, consequently elevating man above God. Man could now do what he wanted because he changed the standard for knowledge. Faith for sure wasn’t good enough. With modernism, faith might make you feel good, but you proved something in naturalistic fashion to say you know it. Modernism then trampled the twentieth century, producing devastation, unsuccessful with its so-called knowledge.

Premoderns had an objective basis for knowledge, revelation from God. Moderns too, even if it wasn’t valid, had human reasoning, what they called “empirical proof.” Postmoderns neither believed or liked scripture or empiricism. This related to authority, whether God or government or parents, or whatever. No one should be able to tell somebody else what to do, which is to conform them to your truth or your reality. No one has proof. Institutions use language to construct power.

Postmodernism judged modernism a failure, pointing to wars, the American Indians and institutional bias, bigotry, and injustice. Since modernism constructed itself by power and language, a postmodernist possesses his own knowledge of good and evil, his own truth, by which to construct his own reality. No one will any more control him with power and language.

Dangerous New Acceptance of Modernism

Jordan Peterson

Modernists today very often stand with conservatives on certain principles.  When I hear him talk about the Bible, and he does very much, Jordan Peterson sounds like a modernist.  In recent days Peterson appeared in a new series on the Book of Exodus and apparently he wrote a book soon published on the story of Sodom and Gomorrah.  He talked about that in a podcast.  In his conversation on Exodus, his interpretation of Sodom and Gomorrah, and in a talk about the book of Jonah, Peterson in recent days pushes his modernist position on tens of thousands of especially young men.

What excites many about Peterson’s talks is that he even talks about the Bible at all.  He acts enthused about scripture.  Peterson thinks the Bible is very important.  He puts great effort into communicating his modernist position and interpretations of the Bible.  Almost five years ago, I already warned about Peterson, still hoping he might change.  He hasn’t and today he’s doubling down on his modernistic approach.

Modernism Versus Divine Verbal Plenary Inspiration

Jordan Peterson does not comment on the Bible like God inspired it.  When I say inspired, I mean verbal plenary inspiration.  God breathed out every word and all of them in the Bible (2 Timothy 3:16-17).  Perhaps I will put more time into exposing the false interpretations and teachings of Jordan Peterson sometime in the future.  In the meantime, please know that Jordan Peterson does not expose what Genesis, Exodus, or almost anything in the scripture actually says.  He leads people astray with his false doctrine.

Don’t get me wrong.  Peterson says many good things.  You and I can rejoice in that.  I’m happy he agrees with freedom of speech.  He rejects a cancel culture.  Peterson accepts a patriarchy.  He does not, however, proclaim an orthodox view of God or the Bible, even though he refers to scripture all the time.

Rick Warren and Evangelical Agnosticism About or Over the Biblical Doctrine of Separation, pt. 2

Part One

Rick Warren and Saddleback Church

Expelled by the SBC

February 21 of this year (2023) the Southern Baptist Convention expelled Saddleback Church.  Saddleback was the church Rick Warren started and pastored in Southern California.  The SBC ejected Saddleback for having a woman pastor.  Rick Warren decided he was wrong about woman pastors.  The Bible actually did allow it.

Ejection from the SBC is a kind of separation.  No doubt.  Rick Warren, it seems, wants to fight it.  I read an article this week that chronicled a bit of an account in an interview of Warren.

The author of the article learned much from SBC training for a state contracted prison chaplaincy, and he thinks Warren will be back.  Part of the reason, it seems, is that he’s already seen that the SBC has many women pastors.  Warren maybe thinks the SBC will take back Saddleback because of the 6,000 Purpose-Driven churches in the Convention.  He says these churches don’t need the SBC, but he wants to influence the SBC.

Rick Warren in Christianity Today

Former SBC leader and chief editor of Christianity Today, Russell Moore, interviewed Warren March 8, 2023.  Even though I don’t like Warren’s belief and practice,  his answers to Moore reveal inconsistencies for the SBC.  Apparently, the SBC avoided dealing with some abuse of women with a reference to autonomy in churches.  Warren claims the SBC didn’t give Saddleback autonomy in their decision for female pastors.  I too have seen autonomy as a regular tool for disobedience.  It becomes a convenient excuse for pastors doing what they like the most.

I read Rick Warren’s Purpose Driven Church book right when he published it.  I knew nothing of him and started the read with a positive outlook.  That assessment became negative when I started reading his rank pragmatism.  I think Rick Warren has done as much damage to churches as anyone in the history of the church.  Still, his treatment of the SBC brings out a good learning moment about the biblical doctrine of separation.

Ecclesiastical Separation

Assessment of Separation

Ecclesiastical separation means a church separates from another church or even other non-church institutions.  The SBC has no biblical authority to separate.  If many churches in the SBC continue with many varied types of unscriptural belief and behavior, separation from Saddleback looks political in some way.  It also exposes the corruption of an unbiblical Convention system.

I’m taking my analysis mainly from the article by C. D. Cauthorne, Jr. at SharperIron.  Warren as reported by Cauthorne supports some kind of separation without addressing ecclesiastical separation.  He quotes not one of a multitude of separation verses from scripture and yet says this:

We should be able to expel people over sin, racism, sexual abuse, other sexual sins, things like that.

Who is We?

Rightly practiced, I don’t disagree with Warren.  I would start, however, by asking, “Who is “we”?”  We expel.  Who can expel people.  We seems to be members of the SBC.  Warren thinks the SBC should expel other members and other churches over certain wrong behavior.  I would call what Warren says next, a “riff.”  He’s talking from the seat of his pants and making aggressive, false statements.  He is inventing material right on the spot really in a typical manner a postmodern world might do that.

This is the same old battle that’s been going on for 100 years in the SBC between conservative Baptists and fundamental Baptists… . Today, a fundamentalist means you’ve stopped listening… . That’s the number one mark of it… . We have to approach Scripture humbly saying I could be wrong. You’ll never hear a Fundamentalist say, “I could be wrong.” A conservative Baptist believes in the inerrancy of Scripture, a fundamentalist Baptist believes in the inerrancy of their interpretation.

Conservative Baptists and Fundamental Baptists?

Has there been a battle for a 100 years between conservative Baptists and fundamental Baptists?  Who are conservative Baptists?  Warren seems to include himself with conservative Baptists.  Who are fundamental Baptists, and especially in the Southern Baptist Convention?  Warren seems to think he will get some traction with an audience by weaponizing the term “fundamentalist.”  He says it means, “You’ve stopped listening.”

Fundamentalism and Evangelicalism

Warren and Fundamentalism

People who actually will call themselves fundamentalists would not use Rick Warren’s ad hominem definition.  Maybe you’re laughing as you read his definition.  It is funny what someone can say and get away with it in a mainstream interview.  Fundamentalists, Warren says, never say, “I could be wrong.”  “A fundamental Baptist believes in the inerrancy of their (sic) interpretation.”  The latter is just a rhetorical turn of phrase meant as combative.  He’s unhappy, but the female role or female pastor issue isn’t just an interpretational one.  In addition, all doctrinal issues relate to interpretation of scripture.

As coarse as Warren is in his take, he manifests a problem with separation in evangelicalism.  They have almost no established, systematic or biblical doctrine of separation upon which to operate.  Scripture says a lot on separation, but since they never include anything about separation in anything they write, no one knows what to do.

Sounding like a Fundamentalist

Warren himself sounds like a fundamentalist.  I understand fundamentalism.  I was a fundamentalist for at least the first 35 years of my life. Warren advocates for separation, but like all fundamentalists, he argues over the standard used.  The Bible is not the standard.  With some kind of social norm as the standard, the arguments about what standard to use will never cease, like they never did in fundamentalism.  These debates occur and occurred until the now gradual disappearance of fundamentalism as a movement.

A good question might also be, what makes someone conservative?  That isn’t established either, as much as Warren floats the term.  He uses “inerrancy” as an ambiguous standard as well as other terms used in an equally ambiguous way.  Warren is working at excluding the belief in male only in the office of pastor.  He says scripture convinced him.  He thinks the SBC should, as it has done in other areas, allow this diversity of “interpretation.”  It’s just a different interpretation, perhaps like the “sons of God” in Genesis 6 and the like.  Who separates over interpretations?

Biblical Separation

Like a Fundamentalist

Maybe a more preliminary question is, “Who separates?”  Or furthermore, “What is biblical separation?”  Evangelicals can’t give a good answer on separation because they do not preach separation.  They do not teach separation.  They are not separatists.  Separation, when they practice it, is not about God.  It is not about obedience to scripture.

Warren uses all sorts of strategies against the SBC in his interview that sound just like what a fundamentalist might do.  He wants to change the criteria for separation and he applies pressure in political ways.  Warren pulls the race card and says that “black churches” ordain women.  He concludes, “The SBC is holding up a sign saying:  All Black churches, look elsewhere.  You’re not wanted here.”  I wonder what black pastors think about Warren’s statement, who don’t endorse female pastors.  Is the idea of “Black churches” itself a kind of racism?  All “Black churches”? Warren lumps all into one category of groupthink.  Not one church peels off the lockstep, uniform whole according to the Warren assessment.

A tell-tale moment, very fundamentalist of him, Warren says, “This issue, the women’s role, it’s not a primary issue because it doesn’t have to do with salvation.  It is a secondary issue.”  This way of talking is inherently fundamentalist.  Warren is saying that someone separates on “primary issues.”  These are what?  Fundamentals.

John MacArthur

John MacArthur, when he attempted to answer in the Q and A in the matter of separation, talks the same way as Warren here.  He’s attempted to categorize what is primary and what is secondary.  MacArthur says, the woman’s role is a primary issue.  He says, infant sprinkling, that isn’t a primary issue.  That’s secondary, and you don’t separate over that.

MacArthur also echoes Warren or Warren echoes MacArthur with the statement, “It doesn’t have to do with salvation.”  MacArthur called this someone who is in the kingdom of God.  You’ve got to work with people who are in the kingdom of God.  Are these women pastors in the kingdom of God?  Are they saved?  I think you can see how that this kind of arbitrary, unscriptural standard will not settle issues of separation.

First, do we separate?  Second, what is the basis of separation?  In part three I want to go through MacArthur’s Q and A answer to show how he falls short.  We know that Rick Warren falls short, but he’s talking the same way as MacArthur about separation.

More to Come

Four Views On the Spectrum of Evangelicalism: A Book Review

I recently listened on Audible through the book Four Views on the Spectrum of Evangelicalism, contributors Kevin Bauder, R. Albert Mohler Jr., John G. Stackhouse Jr., and Roger E. Olson, series editor Stanley N. Gundry, gen eds. Andrew David Naselli & Collin Hansen (Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan, 2011).  The four views presented are:

Fundamentalism: Kevin Bauder

Confessional Evangelicalism, R. Albert Mohler, Jr.

Generic Evangelicalism, John G. Stackhouse, Jr.

Postconservative Evangelicalism, Roger E. Olson

When I listen through a book on Audible I usually listen through twice, since it is easier to miss things when listening to a book than it is when reading one.

For most of the book, I was cheering for Kevin Bauder, for reasons which will be clear below.

Let the Wolves In!

Roger Olson’s View

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Beginning with the bad people who are fine letting the wolves in: Roger Olson argues that “inerrancy cannot be regarded as necessary to being authentically evangelical.  It is what theologians call adiaphora–a nonessential belief” (pg. 165). What is more, “open theists [are] not heretical” (pg. 185). Evangelicals do not need to believe in penal substitution: “there is no single evangelical theory of the atonement. While the penal substitution theory (that Christ bore the punishment for sins in the place of sinners) may be normal, it could hardly be said to be normative” (pg. 183).  However, fundamentalism is “orthodoxy gone cultic” (pg. 67).  Deny Christ died in your place, think God doesn’t know the future perfectly, and think the Bible is full of errors? No problem. Let a Oneness Pentecostal, anti-Trinitarian “church” in to the National Association of Evangelicals (pg. 178)? Great!  Be a fundamentalist?  Your are cultic.

Summary: While Christ says His sheep hear His voice, and Scripture unambiguously teaches its infallible and inerrant inspiration (2 Timothy 3:16; 2 Peter 1:16-21) as the Word of the God who cannot lie, and penal substitution is at the heart of the gospel, Dr. Olson thinks one can deny these things and not only be a Christian but be an evangelical.  Let in the heretics and the wolves!

Let Some of the Wolves In!

John Stackhouse’s View

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John G. Stackhouse, Jr. is only slightly more conservative than Dr. Olson.  For Dr. Stackhouse, “open theists are, to my knowledge, genuine evangelicals” (pg. 132).  No! But at least anti-Trinitarian Oneness Pentecostals who have a false god, a false gospel, and are going to hell are not evangelicals (pg. 204).  Does something so obvious even deserve a “Yay”?

What about penal substitution? “substitutionary atonement is a nonnegotiable part of the Christian understanding of salvation, and evangelicals do well to keep teaching it clearly and enthusiastically” (pg. 136).  One cheer for Dr. Stackhouse.  But then he goes on:

But suppose somebody doesn’t teach it? Does that make him or her not an evangelical? According to the definition I have been using, such a person might well still be an evangelical. Indeed, the discussion in this section takes for granted that some (genuine) evangelicals are uneasy about substitutionary atonement, and a few even hostile to that idea. But they remain evangelicals nonetheless: still putting Christ and the cross in the center, still drawing from Scripture and testing everything by it, still concerned for sound and thorough conversion, still active in working with God in his mission, and still cooperating with evangelicals of other stripes. Evangelicals who diminish or dismiss substitutionary atonement seem to me to be in the same camp as my evangelical brothers and sisters who espouse open theism: truly evangelicals, and truly wrong about something important. (pgs. 136-137)

So the one cheer quickly is replaced by gasps for air and a shocked silence, as the heretics and the wolves come right back in again.  Dr. Bauder does a good job responding to and demolishing these justifications of apostasy and false religion.

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Let the World and the Flesh In and Don’t Be A Fundamentalist Separatist:

Al Mohler’s View

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R. Albert Mohler, Jr. calls his view “Confessional Evangelicalism,” although he never cites any Baptist or any other confession of faith in his essay.  He thinks you do actually need to believe Christ died in your place, open theism is unacceptable, and an inerrant Bible is something worth standing for (1.5 cheers for Dr. Mohler, led by very immodestly dressed Southern Baptist cheerleaders who know that God made them male and female, not trans). However, Dr. Mohler does not believe in anything close to a Biblical doctrine of ecclesiastical separation.  His Southern Baptist denomination is full of leaven that is corrupting the whole lump.  His ecclesiastical polity is like the Biden administration on the USA’s southern border–claiming that there are a few barriers that keep out people who are trying to creep in unawares while millions of illegals come pouring in with a nod and a wink.

Dr. Bauder makes some legitimate criticisms of Dr. Mohler, while also being much more cozy with him than John the Baptist or the Apostles would have been. Dr. Bauder says that Mohler is “doing a good work, and that work would be hindered if I were to lend credibility to the accusation that he is a fundamentalist” (pg. 97).  That is Bauder’s view of the false worship, the huge number of unregenerate church members, the spiritual deadness, the doctrinal confusion, and the gross disobedience in the Southern Baptist Convention. Hurray?  Dr. Bauder’s discussion is not how the first century churches would have worked with disboedient brethren (2 Thessalonians 3:6, 14).

Separate From the Wolves, but Not From Disobedient Sheep:

Kevin Bauder’s “Mainstream Fundamentalist” View

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Kevin Bauder is a self-identified “historic fundamentalist.”  (But what if there never was a unified “historic fundamentalism”?)  He is the only one of the four contributors who actually thinks that ecclesiastical separation needs to take place.  So two cheers for Dr. Bauder!  Bauder argues:  “the gospel is the essential ground of all genuinely Christian unity. Where the gospel is denied, no such unity exists” (pg. 23).  Therefore, “Profession of the gospel is the minimum requirement for visible Christian fellowship. The gospel is the boundary of Christian fellowship” (pg. 25).  Bauder does a good job showing that people must separate from those who deny the gospel, or those who fellowship with those who deny the gospel.  Two more cheers for Bauder.

However, Bauder warns about what he calls “hyper-fundamentalism,” which is actually Biblically consistent separatism (and which gets no voice to defend itself in this book).  He has strong words for the “hyper-fundamentalists”–stronger than the way he voices his disagreements with Mohler:

One version of fundamentalism goes well beyond the idea that I summarized earlier in this essay. It could be called hyper-fundamentalism. Hyper-fundamentalism exists in a variety of forms. … [H]yper-fundamentalists sometimes adopt a militant stance regarding some extrabiblical or even antibiblical teaching. For example, many professing fundamentalists are committed to a theory of textual preservation and biblical translation that leaves the King James Version as the only acceptable English Bible. When individuals become militant over such nonbiblical teachings, they cross the line into hyper-fundamentalism. … [H]yper-fundamentalists understand separation in terms of guilt by association. To associate with someone who holds any error constitutes an endorsement of that error. Persons who hold error are objects of separation, and so are persons who associate with them. … [H]yper-fundamentalists sometimes turn nonessentials into tests of fundamentalism. For example, some hyper-fundamentalists assume that only Baptists should be recognized as fundamentalists. Others make the same assumption about dispensationalists, defining covenant theologians out of fundamentalism. Others elevate extrabiblical personal practices. One’s fundamentalist standing may be judged by such criteria as hair length, musical preferences, and whether one allows women to wear trousers. … Hyper-fundamentalism takes many forms, including some that I have not listed. Nevertheless, these are the forms that are most frequently encountered. When a version of fundamentalism bears one or more of these marks, it should be viewed as hyper-fundamentalist. It is worth noting that several of these marks can also be found in other versions of evangelicalism.

Hyper-fundamentalism is not fundamentalism. It is as a parasite on the fundamentalist movement. … Mainstream fundamentalists find themselves in a changing situation. One factor is that what was once the mainstream may no longer be the majority within self-identified fundamentalism. A growing proportion is composed of hyper-fundamentalists, who add something to the gospel as the boundary of minimal Christian fellowship. If the idea of fundamentalism is correct, then this error is as bad as dethroning the gospel from its position as the boundary.

Another factor is that some evangelicals have implemented aspects of the idea of fundamentalism, perhaps without realizing it. For example, both Wayne Grudem and Albert Mohler (among others) have authored essays that reverberate with fundamentalist ideas. More than that, they and other conservative evangelicals have put their ideas into action, seeking doctrinal boundaries in the Evangelical Theological Society and purging Southern Baptist institutions.

Mainstream fundamentalists are coming to the conclusion that they must distance themselves from hyper-fundamentalists, and they are displaying a new openness to conversation and even some cooperation with conservative evangelicals. Younger fundamentalists in particular are sensitive to the inconsistency of limiting fellowship to their left but not to their right. (pgs. 43-45)

By Bauder’s definition, the first century churches would have been “hyper-fundamentalist” parasites.  (Note that Bauder also makes claims such as:  “Some hyper-fundamentalists view education as detrimental to spiritual well-being” [pg. 44].  There is probably a guy named John somewhere in a “hyper-fundamentalist” church that thinks education is a sin, and there is also probably a lady named Mary in a neo-evangelical church who thinks the same thing, and a big burly fellow named Mat in a post-conservative church who agrees with them, but nothing further about these sorts of claims by Bauder needs further comment.  So we return to something more serious.)  Do you separate over more than just the gospel?  Do you, for example, separate over men who refuse to work and care for their families (2 Thess 3:6-14)?  You are a parasite, just as bad, if not worse, than people who do not separate at all.  Do you separate over false worship (“musical styles” to Bauder), since God burned people up for offering Him strange fire (Lev 10:1ff)?  You are bad–very, very bad.  Let the strange fire right in to the New Testament holy of holies (1 Corinthians 3:16-17)!–even though God says He will “destroy” those who do such a wicked thing.  Do you take a stand for the perfect preservation of Scripture–as did men like George S. Bishop, one of the contributors to The Fundamentals (see, e. g., George S. Bishop, The Fundamentals: “The Testimony of the Scriptures to Themselves,” vol. 2:4 [Bellingham, WA: Logos Bible Software, 2005], 80ff.)? You King James Only parasite!  Do you seek to follow the Apostle Paul and the godly preacher Timothy, and allow “no other doctrine” in the church–not just “no other gospel,” but “no other doctrine” (1 Timothy 1:3)?  Do you repudiate Dr. Bauder’s schema of levels of fellowship to seek what Scripture defines as unity: “that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment” (1 Corinthians 1:10)?  You are bad–very, very bad.  You should be rejected, and we should join hands, instead, with evangelicals like Mohler who write essays that we “reverberate” with while they work in a Southern Baptist Convention teeming with unregenerate preachers and church members which almost never obeys Matthew 18:15-20 and practices church discipline.  If you think Scripture is not kidding when it says men with long hair or women with short hair is a “shame” (1 Corinthians 11:1-16), or you do not want the women in your church to be an “abomination” (Deuteronomy 22:5) by wearing men’s clothing like pants, then you are certainly, certainly beyond the pale.  Corruptions in our culture do not matter-let them into what should be Christ’s pure bride! Everyone knows that the loving thing to do is to allow half the congregation to be an abomination so that they can fit in with our worldly, hell-bound culture.

Dr. Bauder at least says one should separate over the gospel, and he does a good job proving that Scripture requires churches to do that.  He has numbers of effective critiques of positions to his left.  He clearly has studied history and is a thinker.  But he does not present a Biblical case for consistent separatism-very possibly because consistent ecclesiastical separation is only possible when one rejects universal “church” ecclesiology for local-only or Landmark Baptist ecclesiology, and views the local assembly as the locus for organizational unity, while Bauder believes in a universal “church” and must somehow accomodate Scripture’s commands for unity in the body of Christ to that non-extant entity.  As the book A Pure Church: A Biblical Theology of Ecclesiastical Separation demonstrates, churches must separate from all unrepentant and continuing disobedience, not just separate over the gospel.  Dr. Bauder’s view is insufficient.  Furthermore, his critique of what he labels “hyper-fundamentalism” is inconsistent.  If the “hyper-fundamentalists” do things like separate too much and take stands for pure worship, are they thereby denying the gospel?  If not, why does Bauder think they should be repudiated and separated from?

One other important point: some of those who would repudiate Dr. Bauder’s view as too weak are themselves to his left, not his right.  For example, the King James Bible Research Council and the Dean Burgon Society, prominent King James Only advocacy organizations that would claim to be militant fundamentalists, are willing to fellowship with anti-repentance, anti-Lordship, anti-Christ (for does not “Christ” mean “the Messiah, the King, the Lord”?) advocates of heresy on the gospel as advocated by Jack Hyles, Curtis Hudson and the Sword of the Lord, and the so-called “free grace” movement of Zane Hodges.  Fundamentalist schools that stand for gender-distinction and conservative worship, such as Baptist College of Ministry in Menomonee Falls, WI, are willing to fellowship with people who believe the truth on repentance and the gospel as well as with anti-repentance heretics at Hyles Anderson College and First Baptist (?) Church (?) of Hammond, Indiana like John Wilkerson.  If you think Kevin Bauder’s Central Baptist Seminary is too weak, but you yourself do not separate even over the gospel, but tolerate false views of repentance or other heresies on the gospel that Paul would not have tolerated for one hour (Galatians 1:6-9, 2:5), you need to reconsider your position.

Take a stand–follow God.  Allow “no other doctrine” (1 Timothy 1:3). Separate not just on the gospel, but from all unfruitful works of darkness (Ephesians 5:11).  You may be excluded from the book Four Views on the Spectrum of Evangelicalism, with its more liberal contributors viewing you as “cultic” and the most conservative contributor viewing you as a “parasite” and a “hyper-fundamentalist,” but that is fine-God your adopted Father, Christ your gracious Redeemer, and the blessed Holy Spirit, who has made your body and your congregation into His holy temple, will be pleased.  The needy sheep in your flock who had a faithful pastor will embrace you and thank you as they shine like the sun in the coming glorious kingdom, as you led them to faithfulness to Christ and a full reward, instead of compromise.  If Christ does not return first, your church may, by God’s grace, continue to pass on the truth and to multiply other true churches for centuries, instead of falling into apostasy because of a sinful failure to consistently practice Biblical separation.

Get off the spectrum of evangelicalism entirely and follow Scripture alone for the glory of God alone in a separatist, Bible-believing and practicing Baptist church.  You will be opposed now, but God will be glorified, and it will be worth it all, when we see Jesus.

TDR

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Yes and Then No, the Bible with Mark Ward (Part One)

My last post of last week, the shell game with Bible words, if you followed the links, referred to a session Mark Ward did at Bob Jones Seminary, where he did refer to Thomas Ross and myself.  Someone sent that to me, and in my path to watching it, I became curious in another of his videos.  I’ll deal with both here.  One I essentially agreed with, and the other, no.

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Chronologically, Mark Ward first made a podcast from his greenhouse about attending an IFB meeting close to where he lived.  An IFB pastor invited him because R. B. Ouellette was going to preach on the King James issue.  He didn’t say which church this was.  It was surely revivalist in the Hyles/Sword realm.  Ward started out ready to deal with KJVOnlyism, but it turned into something else.  Here’s the podcast.

Ward traveled to a special meeting at a revivalist IFB church to interact with KJVO.  Based upon a heads-up from its pastor, he expected something promoting KJVO.  Ward reported much he liked about the service all the way up to the Ouellette sermon.  Ouellette opened to Job 31:35-36 to defend KJVO.  A plain reading of Job 31 does not appear to do that.

Ward and Ouellette both graduated from Bob Jones University.  In his criticism, Ward distinguished between using the Bible for what a man wants to say and preaching what the Bible does say.  By his account, Ouellette did the former.  He was not a herald, who delivers the Word of the King.  Ward titled his podcast, “The Biggest Step the IFB Needs to Take.”  He treats IFB with generosity, more than what I would.   Instead of the KJVO issue, he found a “preaching” one instead.

YES

Bad Preaching

I wrote, “Yes,” in this title.  I agree with the criticism of this typical, popular IFB preaching.  If IFB apparently cares for the perfection of its Bible, then preach the Bible.  Its leaders very often preach like Ward described.  He reported loud “Amens” shouted all around, which supported a message that twisted the Word of God.  Ward exposed a reason for someone to separate from IFB churches and men.  I say “Yes” to Ward.  I agree with him.

What causes a man to preach like Ouellette?  It’s not that he is unable to preach the Bible.  Why would he settle for something entirely not what the passage says?  Underlying doctrinal problems exist especially regarding the Holy Spirit.  Keswick theology, second blessing theology, or revivalism, all similar error but with a nuance of difference, affect preaching.

Many IFB believe the preacher becomes a vessel for a message from the Holy Spirit.  They believe that through the Holy Spirit God gives the preacher something others can’t even see in a text.  This is called “preaching.”  God uses “preaching,” but by that they don’t mean the Bible.  The Bible is used, but the preaching is something unique.  They trust the man of God has been given something they haven’t ever seen and can’t see.

However, I dispute preaching as the biggest step for IFB. It isn’t the “I” (independent) or the “B” (Baptist) in IFB that’s the problem.  “F” for Fundamentalism is at the root of the problem.  Actual preaching of the Bible isn’t a fundamental of fundamentalism.  In general, IFB does not confront bad preaching.  It allows it and even encourages it.  If someone spiritualizes or allegorizes a passage and reads something into a text, it doesn’t bring condemnation.  However, the biggest step for fundamentalism isn’t its preaching.

False Gospel

Fundamentalism is rife with a corrupted gospel.  Ward commended the evangelism of IFB.  What is the evangelism of IFB?  Look all over the internet at the gospel presentations.  Most IFB removes biblical repentance and the Lordship of Christ.  Let’s say Ouellette rejected KJVO and started using the ESV, or even just the NKJV.  Would he become acceptable to Ward, reaching his primary goal?  Ouellette argues against repentance as necessary for salvation (I write herehere, and here).  When you read doctrinal statements and the plans of salvation of those churches most associated with Ouellette, they’re the same.

A few years ago, James White participated in an interview with Steven Anderson.  In White’s many criticisms of Anderson, he never mentions his false gospel.  Anderson hosts an anti-repentance website.  Anderson is worse than Ouellette, but both fall short of a biblical gospel.  As White ignores Anderson’s gospel, Ward does Ouellette’s.  This diverges from the often stated emphasis of evangelicals, the gospel of first importance.  The version issue stokes greater heat than the gospel does.

Some IFB churches preach a true gospel even as some preach biblical sermons.  Yet, a false gospel subverts IFB unrelated to the version of the Bible it uses.  Years ago IFB allowed and even promoted the introduction and then acceptance of a false doctrine of salvation.  I am happy Ward noticed the bad preaching of Ouellette, but his focus harms his ability to see the biggest IFB problem.  Ward doesn’t mention the wrong gospel.

The Command to Worship the LORD in the Beauty of Holiness

Without doubt, scripture teaches that worship of God must be regulated by what God says.  The point of this post comes from Psalm 29:2

Give unto the LORD the glory due unto his name; worship the LORD in the beauty of holiness.

I’ve seen this verse many times.  Many.  Yet, something occurred to me when I read it in my Bible reading this year that really struck me.  Since true worship of God is regulated by scripture, then worship should be regulated especially by this verse.  There are not many verses as stark as this one on worship of the LORD.  The teaching is also repeated three times.  It’s not a stand alone.

1 Chronicles 16:29, “Give unto the LORD the glory due unto his name: bring an offering, and come before him: worship the LORD in the beauty of holiness.”
Psalm 96:9, “O worship the LORD in the beauty of holiness: fear before him, all the earth.”
I’ve written many times on the regulative principle of worship.  Scripture shows exclusively and through numerous examples that worship must be regulated by God’s Word.  Silence is not permission.  In this case, scripture says something.I’ve also written a lot about beauty.  It is among the topics or doctrines about which I’ve written the most (it is under “B” in my index).  I’ve also written about it recently in a three part series on the throne room of God (part onepart twopart three).  I’ve mainly written about beauty as one of the transcendentals, especially related to apostasy.  I don’t take any of that back, but in this case, I want to talk about how “beauty” relates to the regulation of worship according to this verse and the others like it.One point that caught my attention when reading Psalm 29 in my trip through psalms is the command.  It’s not just what scripture teaches on worship.  This is a commanded aspect of worship.  How many of those are there?  “Worship” as a verb is imperative.  It’s not that worship itself is imperative, which it is — “worship the LORD.”  Everyone knows that’s an imperative.  The imperative is that the LORD is worshiped in the beauty of holiness.  “The beauty of holiness” is a requirement in acceptable worship.I want to reiterate this point.  God does not accept worship that is not in the beauty of holiness.  He rejects it.  This is part of the regulative principle, but it’s more than that.  All worship must be in the beauty of holiness.  If not, it isn’t worship.  If what someone calls “worship” is not in the beauty of holiness, then it isn’t worship.Almost all evangelical and now even fundamentalist worship is not in the beauty of holiness.  Evangelicals and fundamentalists as a whole are not worshiping God.  I know that means that they are doing something else, worshiping themselves, and that sounds tough or seemingly impossible, but it is true.  They are disobeying this command and, therefore, offering God something that is against His nature.  It is more than this, which brings me to the second point that caught my attention.A second point is that beauty is assumed in the verse.  It is implied that the reader knows what beauty of holiness is.  It is obvious.  It cannot be obeyed if it cannot be understood.  A modern audience most of the time does not understand the beauty of holiness.  It is a completely foreign concept.  Yet, everyone is still required to worship God in the beauty of holiness.  This is an ignored requirement.  God commands it, and the apparent worshipers say, “Meh. Nope.  Gonna do what I want instead.”It’s not just what I’ve written so far. The so-called worshipers today don’t want to be critiqued for not worshiping God in the beauty of holiness.  They are angry if you do.  They want to treat it as not being able to be understood, a tertiary matter.  Even though beauty of holiness is non-optional, it is rejected by evangelicals and most fundamentalists.  One could say that the one thing required is the one thing the most offensive to evangelical and fundamentalist sensibility.  It must not be a part of their worship.  What is this all about?The main apostasy of the age in which we live is that the things of God are conformed to the world.  They must be accepted.  Evangelical and fundamentalists success, which amounts to getting bigger and having bigger budgets or at least translating into tangible results, even if they are fraudulent, requires elimination of beauty of holiness.  It has to at least be redefined and dumbed down until it isn’t even what it is.  This is all to be conformed to man, to his lust, which is what makes these churches popular.  Of course, it all leads to or just is false worship.  Their people don’t have the same God in their imaginations. That’s been ruined by their unwillingness to conform to what scripture says.There are many of these in scripture, but “beauty” is self-evident.  We already know it.  If we don’t know it, it’s not a knowledge problem, but a rebellion one.  The rebellion proceeds out of lust.  Beauty though is something that men can know like they can know what “corrupt communication” is and what “the attire of a harlot” is.  Ignorance is not a legitimate excuse.  It won’t be accepted by God.Since worship must be in the beauty of his holiness, then beauty is objective.  It can’t be subjective. That would be to command, worship the LORD in the whatever you want beauty of holiness to be.  People don’t want to be judged on beauty, because they want their own taste.You’re going to spend eternity somewhere, and that relates to what God knows about what you’re doing.  You should think seriously about whether He will be pleased.  Nothing that “you like” will be in God’s kingdom or in the eternal state, and that’s what you want to highlight in this life — what’s going to be in the next.  If you don’t care, then you should check whether you will be there or not, or whether the actual God of the Bible is your God.When readers see the title of this post, I suggest most just move on.  They don’t care.  They want something “practical.”  There is nothing more practical than God being worshiped.  If that is not your practice, you are not pleasing God, the whole purpose of your existence.  This is not a “controversial issue.”  People have already moved on.  They just smirk and say, “He’s one of those.”  Pause a moment.  If you don’t obey this command, you are not worshiping God.  That means you are not a “true worshiper of God” (John 4:23-24).Okay, so you may ask, “What is the beauty of holiness”?  “Holiness” is the perfections of God’s nature.  Beauty corresponds to or parallels with the manifestation or revelation of the character of God.  Much has been written on this through the centuries to the point where the church has agreed what this is.  Just because modernism and post-modernism has left it and even rejected it doesn’t mean that it isn’t still true.  Beauty is in accordance with the nature of God.  It cannot clash with who He is, and 90 to 100 percent of evangelical and fundamentalist worship does.Evangelical worship is ugly.  It is worldly.  It is carnal.  That’s what evangelicals like about their worship.  They disobey this command:  worship the LORD in the beauty of holiness.  They are not worshiping the LORD.

Worship Is God’s Priority for Men: The Case of 2 Chronicles 25

The impression from an overview of scripture is that worship is God’s priority for men.  Jesus said to the woman at the well, God is seeking for true worshipers (John 4:23).  Jesus said this.  David was a man after God’s own heart (1 Samuel 13:14).  What was David’s priority?  The worship of God.  1 Chronicles 25:14-16 provide another example:

14 Now it came to pass, after that Amaziah was come from the slaughter of the Edomites, that he brought the gods of the children of Seir, and set them up to be his gods, and bowed down himself before them, and burned incense unto them. 15 Wherefore the anger of the LORD was kindled against Amaziah, and he sent unto him a prophet, which said unto him, Why hast thou sought after the gods of the people, which could not deliver their own people out of thine hand? 16 And it came to pass, as he talked with him, that the king said unto him, Art thou made of the king’s counsel? forbear; why shouldest thou be smitten? Then the prophet forbare, and said, I know that God hath determined to destroy thee, because thou hast done this, and hast not hearkened unto my counsel

Amaziah, king of Judah, conquered the Edomites based on a prophecy from God.  God gave his mercenary army the victory over Edom, which had rebelled against his great-grandfather, Jehoram (verse 14).  He obeyed God in slaughtering the Edomites.  However, as you can read above, he brought Edom’s gods and bowed down to them and burned incense to them.  How did God react to that?

God’s anger was kindled against Amaziah, because of the false worship.  There’s more.  God was the one who delivered the Edomites, and these new gods could not deliver them.  So, God sent a prophet to confront Amaziah.

False worship doesn’t make any sense.  God gives every good thing and yet people worship another god and in numbers of different ways.  What is it?  It doesn’t explain the insanity of this, but we know it still occurs.  The true God is not worshiped in a true way.  He’s ignored.  He’s refused.  What causes men to choose a different god or worship the true God in a way He would never accept?  Why do they do it?

Maybe it doesn’t matter why.  Maybe all that matters is that they do it.  In the end, the judgment will come for what, but why still matters.  It doesn’t say, but I think we know.  We’re supposed to know.  God gives everyone every good thing, but God expects something from His worshipers.  False gods don’t have the same expectations as God.  It’s like doctor shopping.  You shop for the god of your choice and have him be your god, and then you get what you want.

Another avenue today is to keep the God of the Bible but conform Him so much to your own preferences and your own style, that He’s not even the same God.  He’s god, not God.  That’s all over “evangelicalism.”  People are important to evangelicalism, and evangelicalism’s god conforms to people.  That’s who he is.

The wrong worship and the wrong god merge into one another.  They become indistinguishable at some point.  Keeping the same “God” is just a masquerade.  And then people are so self-deceived, they just don’t know anymore.  God knows and He’s angry.

In many ways, people again in a self-deceived way are thinking they can fool God.  He won’t know.  Or He’ll understand and accept.  2 Peter describes apostasy and in the most rudimentary way, it is not wanting accountability or authority.  This does challenge the goodness of God and redefines goodness.  Goodness becomes the object of man’s lust, and man doesn’t want a God who doesn’t give him what he wants.  Reader, God knows.  You won’t get away with it.  His worship is His priority.

God is angry with false worship as described in the previous four paragraphs.  On the other hand, someone who prioritizes that worship, as flawed even as he may be personally, is a man after God’s own heart.  He prioritizes the true worship of God.  That doesn’t excuse His flaws, but it’s helpful to know God’s priority.

Amaziah’s worship story is an amazing one.  Do you agree?  But let’s move on.

God sends a prophet to warn about false worship.  True prophets warn against false worship, preach true worship.  Practical, successful living matters to God, but worship is the priority.  Today that would be to worship the right God the right way, which is in His church, regulated by scripture.  Church growth is not the priority, except for more true worshipers.  If there isn’t true worship at all, God doesn’t want church growth.  He wants church disappearance or elimination.

The message from God through the prophet is not to seek after other gods.  Don’t seek them in whatever way anyone may seek them.  On the other hand, seek the true God.  People don’t know Him, because they don’t seek Him.  He must be sought to be known.  This relates to a lot about believing the Lord.  He is available and can be known, but we must seek Him.  Sure, we can’t seek Him without His seeking us, but we must seek Him.  It’s crucial.

The first half of verse 16 accounts of the threat by Amaziah to the prophet.  That sounds serious, threatening someone who impedes your false worship.  I’ve stood at the door arguing about worship for hours.  A lot of people would say, let it go.  It’s not important, the gospel is important.  Except for the gospel is about worship (see John 4:23 again).

When doing spiritual warfare with someone about worship, it is emotional.  People don’t want their worship rejected.  If it is, something isn’t wrong with them, the false worshipers, it’s you the prophet.  It was so serious for Amaziah that he threatened the prophet in one of the most mafia like threats in scripture.   There were two components.  First, there was a veiled threat of his job as the king’s counsel, a job he would have lost anyway if, second, he was killed by Amaziah.

I want to emphasize that false worshipers want to defend their false worship.  I contend that it’s not about their god.  It’s about them.  They want what they want, and their god is allowing it.  God gave the victory.  He deserved to be worshiped, but whatever the gods of Edom offered Amaziah, he preferred it.

Not allowing the false worship is like taking food from an animal.  I’ve found this to be the reaction.  The false worshiper attacks the prophet to keep the worship.  I’ve experienced dozens of personal attacks in similar situations with people angry over the challenge of their worship.  Cain is an early example in scripture, challenging God and killing his brother over this same issue.

The prophet addressed both threats in an economy of words and in reverse order.  Getting straight to the point, God is going to destroy you, implying that you are not going to destroy me.  Second, you didn’t listen to my counsel anyway, so you really can’t threaten me with my job.  The prophet stood up to the false worshiper and his false worship.  He did not back off.  This is God’s will, to confront false worship.

Modern evangelicalism and fundamentalism attack those who confront false worship.  If you are reading this and you’re one of them, you’re probably defending your attacks with bad arguments.  They call it a tertiary issue.  You will be canceled by them for confronting false worship.  Love is love after all according to the leftish value list.  Love would accommodate false worship.  God will kill over it.  The prophet actually was saving Amaziah’s life.  That is actual love, not the toleration of the leftist values now foremost in evangelicalism and fundamentalism.  I face those values every week and almost every day.

2 Chronicles 25 is another case for worship as God’s priority for men.

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