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Revivalism or Fake Revival, Jesus Revolution, and Asbury, pt. 3

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Religious or Spiritual Ecstasy, Soft Continuationism

Again and again through the years, I wrote on religious ecstasy, a perversion of true spirituality experienced in Corinth (1 Corinthians 12:1-3) [see here, here, here, here, here, and here].  In 1 Corinthians 1, when Paul said that the Jews seek after signs (1 Cor 1:22), they were seeking for some experiential means of authenticating their spirituality.  God settled the faith once and for all (Jude 1:3) with the completion of scripture.  God chooses to use the oracles of God and that glorifies Him (1 Peter 4:11).

With true signs not available, except for something demonically manufactured to impersonate them, men use cheap, superficial counterfeits.  Usually these are a form of what some termed, “soft continuationism.”  What Paul confronted in Corinth was ecstatic experience.  Ecstasy means:  “an emotional or religious frenzy or trance-like state, originally one involving an experience of mystic self-transcendence”  More than any other way, to give this mystical feeling that the Holy Spirit is working, what is religious ecstasy, comes through music.

Asbury “Revival”

A Description

Someone seeking to justify the recent Asbury, Kentucky experience as revival, challenged what I wrote in part one in the comment section, to which I wrote on March 2:

I watched the earliest posted meeting at Asbury and zoomed through a very long period of Charismatic style emotionalism, repetitious, rock rhythmed, sentimental, superficial, doctrinally ambiguous, led by women, ecstatic music before getting to the “sermon,” which was nothing like Edwards or Whitefield. Maybe the aesthetic and spirit of the so-called worship means nothing to you, but it clashed with the biblical nature of God. It more reminded me of a Corinthian style revival.

If Charles Finney were alive, he would likely be proud of it. Everyone appeared in the egalitarian, postmodern casual, sloppy, and disordered dress (ripped blue jeans, etc.), giving no indication of anyone in authority. The man I heard used a few verses from a modern version, but at best you would be unsure what salvation was. It sounded more like Jesus as therapist. His list of sins that you put into your makeshift cup to give to Jesus included racism and terrorism. No one would even know who Jesus was, why or what it meant to believe in Him.

In Contrast

I continued.

I heard no biblical exposition. This is an updated kind of revival for today’s generation, like one of those Bibles with a hippie cover, to show how relevant the Bible could become. All of what I saw and heard conformed to the spirit of the age, would not dare distinguish itself, probably could not do that and be acceptable to that crowd.

It seemed that people in the audience were stirred to a certain degree. They were affected. I saw some emotion. Is that indications of the Holy Spirit? I have seen the same spirit, aroused by music in Charismatic settings, giving the impression that something spiritual is going on, but it choreographed by the feelings led by the music.

Similar Comments at the Shepherd’s Conference on March 8-10

After I wrote that on March 2, in the Q and A at his Shepherd’s Conference (the conference was March 8-10), someone asked John MacArthur about the Asbury so-called “revival.”  The host referenced Jonathan Edwards and his historic and biblical teaching on the marks of revival.  If it is revival, Edwards would say it must bear certain marks, or else it is fraudulent, a kind of impersonation like I said above.  He said one assesses a true work of God based upon the Word of God and not emotion or feelings.

John MacArthur and Scott Aniol

MacArthur commented then on the Asbury Revival:

For most of those kids, it was not about Christ, but about the chords.  It was about singing the same words for twenty minutes in a row in some kind of mesmerizing pseudo-spiritual experience that had no relationship to sound doctrine, to the depth of the gospel.  I would like to know if that same revival would have occurred without the music.  Shut the music down and find out what God is really doing.

I’m glad to hear MacArthur say essentially the same thing I said.  Scott Aniol also picked up on this with an excellent article, you all should read, written on March 13, entitled, “Christ or Chords? The Manipulated Emotionalism of Hillsong, Asbury, and Pentecostalized Evangelical Worship.”  He picked up on the comment by MacArthur, “not about Christ, but about the chords.”  This is such an important theme for today.

Strange Fire?

MacArthur in the past gave a pass to contemporary style worship, using it in his own conference again and again.  If anyone, like myself, criticized it, the MacArthur allies came out of the woodwork to attack me vehemently.  In his now renowned Strange Fire Conference, MacArthur said the following, actually in contradiction of much of his own historic practice:

The contemporary evangelical church has very little interest in theology and doctrine, so you’re going to have a tough sell. It’s about style. And style is the Trojan Horse that lets Charismatics in the church. Because once you let the music in, the movement follows. It all of a sudden becomes common.

We sound like the Charismatics, sing like they do, have the same emotional feelings that they have. It’s a small step from doing the same music to buying into the movement. So the tough thing is you’re going back to a church that is thinking like that. It’s hard to make sound doctrine the issue when style is much more the interest of the leaders of the church.

Later he said:

I don’t think it has to do with what the teachers are saying. I think it’s the music. It’s like getting drunk so you don’t have to think about the issues of life. If you shut down the music, turn on the lights, and have someone get up there and try to sell that with just words, it’s not going to work. You’ve got to have some way to manipulate their minds.

Consistency and Discernment

The people MacArthur used in the Shepherd’s Conference in the past use a Charismatic style of worship, led by women very often, and giving the same kind of trance-like ecstatic experience.  I believe he’s changing on this, and Scott Aniol latches on to that in his article.

Independent and even unaffiliated Baptists regularly produce their ecstasy in a kind of soft continuationism.  It is a huge lack of discernment and it is very often ignored completely as a matter of fellowship.  In other words, they encourage false worship through these forms of strange fire.  Let this be a serious warning to us all and for the glory of God.

Revivalism or Fake Revival, Jesus Revolution, and Asbury, pt. 2

Part One

When someone speaks of revival, built into the terminology is a return to something right, that was wrong.  A change takes place.  True revival is not the invention of something new, not seen before in the history of true, biblical Christianity.

Hippie Movement from Haight Ashbury, San Francisco

In the 1960s, especially centered in Woodstock, New York and the Haight Ashbury District, San Francisco, a hippie movement began.  Called the flower children, they distributed flowers or floral decorations to symbolize their peace, love, universal belonging and protest the Vietnam War.  They formed their own counter culture.

Men of the culture at large still wore short hair, which conforms to biblical teaching (cf. 1 Cor 11:14).  God willed men to keep this gender distinction. Male hippies rebelled against God’s design by growing long hair — not just long, but not combed or neat either.  Today some might call what hippies wore, “casual dress.”  They spurred this informal appearance, a kind of egalitarianism communicating that no one was above anyone else.  More than that, they appeared slovenly, unkept, disordered, and ragged, some now might call “authenticity.”

Being hippy also meant sex, drugs, and rock n roll for adherents of the hippie lifestyle.  Christians at no point in history would permit those as “Christian liberty,” a manifestation of God’s grace.  Hippies practiced free sex, ignoring the conventional and biblical requirement of marriage.  They took drugs like LSD and marijuana apparently to enhance their experience.  While others sat on chairs, they went so far even to forego those for the floor or ground.  Many wouldn’t wear shoes, embracing their noble savage, uncorrupted by civilization.

Jesus Freaks

Northern California Move to Southern

With the growth of hippiedom, some went into the Haight Ashbury district of San Francisco to bring the Bible to the hippies.  I’ve met some from that time period and they believed that their drugs took them out of their bodies into a greater God consciousness, an ecstatic experience that transcended themselves.  Then they tried to take this novel Christianity into some Northern California churches.  When no churches accepted, this branch of religious hippies, known as Jesus Freaks, moved to Southern California.

Lonnie Frisbee

The Jesus Freak hippies, who migrated South, were under the influence of a leader named Lonnie Frisbee.  Randall Roberts, reporter for the Los Angeles Times, wrote about Frisbee in an article titled, “Jesus, drugs and rock ’n’ roll: How an O.C. hippie church birthed contemporary Christian music”:

The birth of contemporary Christian rock and pop music in America can in part be traced to a vision received by a 17-year-old runaway from Costa Mesa named Lonnie Frisbee.

After stripping naked and taking LSD in 1967 near Tahquitz Falls outside of Palm Springs, the young man called to God.

As water from the falls crashed, Frisbee, who wore his hair and beard like the archetypal Jesus Christ, saw himself standing beside the Pacific Ocean, Bible in hand, staring out at the horizon. But instead of water, the sea was filled with lost souls crying out for salvation.

“God, if you’re really real, reveal yourself to me,” Frisbee, who died of AIDS in 1993, later recalled pleading. “And one afternoon, the whole atmosphere of this canyon I was in started to tingle and get light and it started to change — and I’m just going, ‘Uh oh!’”

Frisbee dressed like the popular, secular notion or stereotype of Jesus with flowing robe and long hair, using soft-spoken tones also ala the flower children.  It played well with the rebellion of the hippy subculture.  At first the hippies met on the beach and baptized in the ocean.  They used 1-2-3 pray-with-me evangelism, where someone prayed the prayer and was dunked under the waves shortly thereafter.  Their view of grace brought forgiveness and eternal life, while still being and living like a hippie.

Rejecting the Historical Church, Its Doctrine, Practice, and Worship

Chuck Smith

The Jesus Freaks found a welcoming host in a buttoned down traditional four-square Pentecostal church with Chuck Smith as its pastor.  He had 25 in his congregation in 1965.  His church sang hymns.  He wore a dark suit and tie.  That changed.

Smith’s encounter with Lonnie Frisbee offered the opportunity to take these hippies into his customary church.  Smith did not come from a historical line of Christian churches.  His trajectory came from the early 20th century heritage of the modern Charismatic or Pentecostal movement, founded on the continuation of sign gifts for today.  Smith could embrace further deviation from orthodox, historic doctrine, practice, and worship.  In 2018, John MacArthur described Smith’s predicament:

What’s he going to do? What’s the church going to do? So they had a meeting and they decided that, “We’ll lose them [speaking of his whole congregation] and they’ll [the hippies or Jesus Freaks] leave if we don’t accommodate them.” They didn’t like the music; they didn’t like the dress code; they didn’t like anything. For the first time in church history that I can find, an aberrant, small, deviant, subculture redefined the character of a church.

Acquiescing to a Youth Culture

On another occasion and I agree with him, MacArthur said, characterizing this Jesus Revolution:

That was already being discussed a lot of places, because the hippie movement caught fire across America – the movement of rebellion against authority, responsibility, duty, expectation; rebellion against right, honor; it caught fire. So the church feared, “We’re going to lose these people if we don’t acquiesce.” So for the first time when the Jesus people came to church, first time I can find in church history, the church began to redefine its own identity and worship based upon the wishes of a rebellious subculture. That definition started then and spread; started in California, spread clear across the country.

Prior to the ‘60s, nobody expected a church service to be rock concert. Nobody expected a church service to be entertainment, . . . worship to be physical stimulation, emotional feelings without engaging your mind, . . . church to be a manipulation of people’s desires to fulfill their own self-styled identity. A church was a church, and it was a place where there was thoughtful, prayerful, biblical, sober-minded hearing from the Word of God, leading to conviction and edification and elevation. It was a heavenly encounter.

Modern Generation

MacArthur continued:

But to this modern generation of young people – serious, sober, thoughtful, scriptural preaching about God, and confrontation of sin, and a call to holiness, and a call to separate from the world and from iniquity is far too absolute and far too offensive. People who want to feel good about themselves the way they are don’t want that, so the . . . church caved in and gave them what they want. And now pastors continue to accommodate those same people – irresponsible, lazy, undisciplined rebels who want what they want – and the church, instead of confronting it, conforms to it. No preaching on sanctification, no preaching on holiness can be done in those environments; they’d empty the place.

Broken People?

Professing Christian leaders now justify the Jesus revolution as ‘God using broken people.”  He used Samson and David, is the explanation.  God used Peter, but Peter was a believer, filled with the Holy Spirit, obedient to Jesus Christ, when he preached on the Day of Pentecost.  He does not use unbelievers, these “broken people,” for a flurry of conversions.

God does not use believers, who are living in sin.  They are vessels unto dishonor, who are not meet for the Master’s use.  The Jesus revolution was not a blessing to Christianity, to the church, or to the world.  This revolution started something new and wrong.  It was a bad revolution, like many other revolutions in the history of the world.

David Wilkerson and Historic Confrontation of Jesus Freaks

David Wilkerson was a mainstream evangelical in the late 1950s and through the 1970s.  He is known for the popular Christian book, The Cross and the Switchblade.  Youtube above showed a historic confrontation he had in the 1960s with the Jesus Freaks that indicates how much they clashed then with even evangelicalism.  These men present a deviant view of biblical sanctification, however, a false view that has become much more mainstream today in evangelicalism.

The Jesus Freak argument with Wilkerson represents a neo-libertine view of sanctification.  It combines with a portion of early woke or social justice warrior.  For instance, in the video above these men contradict Wilkerson by judging him by the standard Jesus imposed on the rich young ruler.  Sell all that you have and give it to the poor.  They see righteousness in their disheveled look, which someone could pose just as easily as any external or formal appearance.  Conveniently, they evince faith parallel with the lifestyle preferred by hippies.

More to Come

Binding and Loosing–What Are They? Matthew 16:19; 18:18; Catholic, Pentecostal, Keswick, and Bible Views

Do you know what it means that the church can bind and loose? The Bible reads:

Matt. 16:19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

Matt. 18:18 Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

The Roman Catholic Church claims that binding and loosing are associated with an infallible power their religious organization, led by the Pope when he speaks ex cathedra, from the chair of the (alleged) first Pope, Peter, to supposedly infallibly determine doctrine. Pentecostal, charismatic, Word of Faith and Keswick proponents claim to have the authority to bind Satan. What does Scripture teach?

 

I discussed this question in a Greek class I taught going through William Mounce’s Basics of Biblical Greek, from 5:56-19:23 into the class video. Click here to watch the video on YouTube (and please feel free to subscribe to the KJB1611 YouTube channel, post a comment or “like” the video)

or watch the video embedded below:

Learn what Scripture teaches about binding and loosing!

TDR

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