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Hannah W. Smith, Sign Gifts and Pentecostal Roots: part 4 of 21 in Hannah W. Smith: Keswick Founder, Higher Life Preacher, Quaker Quietist and Universalist Heretic
“In line with the Quaker background she shared with her husband, both Mrs. and Mr. Smith were believers in the continuation of miraculous gifts for the present day as opposed to being cessationists, advocates of the Biblical truth that the sign gifts ceased with the completion of the canon of the Scripture and the death of the Apostles in the first century.”
to read the section that was in the blog post below.
By the way, I provide a great deal of evidence demonstrating that the Keswick/Higher Life movement was crucial to the rise of Pentecostalism and made the development of that movement essentially inevitable in "Keswick Theology, Continuationism or Anti-Cessationism, and the Rise of the Pentecostal, Charismatic, and Word of Faith Movements: Vignettes of Certain Important Advocates of Keswick or Higher Life Theology and their Beliefs Concerning Spiritual Gifts and Other Matters: William Boardman, Andrew Murray, Frederick B. Meyer, Evan Roberts and Jessie Penn-Lewis, A. B. Simpson, John A. MacMillan, and Watchman Nee" here:
I'm doing a lot of research into Oneness Pentecostalism. A Oneness author I'm reading specifically attributes the rise of Pentecostalism to a renewed emphasis on the Spirit in the late 19th Century. He cites R.A. Torrey specifically. Just wanted to let you know that Pentecostals themselves would agree with you on their indebtedness to the Keswick movement.
Thanks for the comment. Torrey was actually the closest pre-Pentecostal to the Pentecostal view of Spirit baptism. Paul King, professor at Oral Roberts University, has also done work showing the Keswick/Higher Life influence on the Word of Faith movement (of course, from his perspective, this makes the Word of Faith theology more orthodox, rather than the Keswick theology worse.)
Also, I have some lectures on Oneness in the college course on Trinitarianism I taught here:
I've been reading David Bernard and David Norris, who appear to be the two most articulate spokesmen for that perspective who have written.
Did you ever catch the 1985 television debate between Nathaniel Urshan and Robert Sabin (Oneness) vs. Walter Martin and Calvin Beisner? What an eye-opening thing to see Oneness Pentecostals take their views into public discussion. They didn't fare well!
I don't believe I have seen that debate. Bernard is definitely one of the better spokesmen for their idolatry.
I have found the book:
Oneness Pentecostals and the Trinity
by Gregory Boyd to be a useful critique, as he was former Oneness. Boyd does not get into his current heresy of Open Theism in the book, which is a pretty solid and effective critique of Oneness.
If you want to watch the television special, shoot me an email at pastor@faithbaptistdivernon.com. Nathaniel Urshan was the Superintendent of the UPCI before Bernard, and Robert Sabin was (from what I've seen) was the most articulate apologist for the UPCI. It is worth a look, if you're interested.
By the way, I provide a great deal of evidence demonstrating that the Keswick/Higher Life movement was crucial to the rise of Pentecostalism and made the development of that movement essentially inevitable in "Keswick Theology, Continuationism or Anti-Cessationism, and the Rise of the Pentecostal, Charismatic, and Word of Faith Movements: Vignettes of Certain Important Advocates of Keswick or Higher Life Theology and their Beliefs Concerning Spiritual Gifts and Other Matters: William Boardman, Andrew Murray, Frederick B. Meyer, Evan Roberts and Jessie Penn-Lewis, A. B. Simpson, John A. MacMillan, and Watchman Nee" here:
http://faithsaves.net/soteriology/
KJB1611:
I'm doing a lot of research into Oneness Pentecostalism. A Oneness author I'm reading specifically attributes the rise of Pentecostalism to a renewed emphasis on the Spirit in the late 19th Century. He cites R.A. Torrey specifically. Just wanted to let you know that Pentecostals themselves would agree with you on their indebtedness to the Keswick movement.
Cheers!
Good material.
Thanks
Dear Tyler,
Thanks for the comment. Torrey was actually the closest pre-Pentecostal to the Pentecostal view of Spirit baptism. Paul King, professor at Oral Roberts University, has also done work showing the Keswick/Higher Life influence on the Word of Faith movement (of course, from his perspective, this makes the Word of Faith theology more orthodox, rather than the Keswick theology worse.)
Also, I have some lectures on Oneness in the college course on Trinitarianism I taught here:
http://faithsaves.net/trinitarianism/
and this:
http://faithsaves.net/jesus-only-doctrine-god-examined-jesus-christ-father-son-holy-spirit/
deals extensively with the modalist view of God they hold.
Dear Jim,
Thanks.
KJB1611:
I've been reading David Bernard and David Norris, who appear to be the two most articulate spokesmen for that perspective who have written.
Did you ever catch the 1985 television debate between Nathaniel Urshan and Robert Sabin (Oneness) vs. Walter Martin and Calvin Beisner? What an eye-opening thing to see Oneness Pentecostals take their views into public discussion. They didn't fare well!
Dear Jim,
I don't believe I have seen that debate. Bernard is definitely one of the better spokesmen for their idolatry.
I have found the book:
Oneness Pentecostals and the Trinity
by Gregory Boyd to be a useful critique, as he was former Oneness. Boyd does not get into his current heresy of Open Theism in the book, which is a pretty solid and effective critique of Oneness.
KJB1611:
If you want to watch the television special, shoot me an email at pastor@faithbaptistdivernon.com. Nathaniel Urshan was the Superintendent of the UPCI before Bernard, and Robert Sabin was (from what I've seen) was the most articulate apologist for the UPCI. It is worth a look, if you're interested.